Religion is Silly Fairy Tales

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    As an atheist, I'm not particularly in favor of this approach.

    Disparaging someone's religion is not going to accomplish anything.

    I'd rather point to the positive aspects that definitely ARE in Christianity, as those are positives that Christians really do have to support.

    I would suggest Matthew 25:31- on is a significant example, as it calls for Christians to search out those in need and to supply aid. And, failure on the part of a Christian to do that is said by Jesus to be punished with everlasting hell.

    Surely pushing that is far more practical and important than claiming Christianity is a fairy tale.
     
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    I have problems with Christianity as well as the other theistic religions. I also have a problem with reincarnation from life to life. It is a mystery to me.
     
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    As an atheist brought up in a semi-religious environment, I'm in favor of reality. The point was not about disparaging someone's religion, it was about exposing the fact that virtually ALL religions are based on fairy tales. While it's true that some religions teach positives, it's also true that some religions (including the ones that teach positives) teach dangerous negatives via those fairy tales. And it's not just teaching, it's indoctrination, sometimes under psychological and/or physical threat. I am not in favor of taking a head in the sand attitude and just looking at the bright side of religion.

     
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    Um, the USA is still a Christian majority country.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you really believe that being threatened with everlasting hell....is a positive aspect?
     
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    what about when eating pork killed you, was that a fairy tale? We know the big bang is a fairy tale, many people believe heart n soul in the big bang, and evolution is peppered with holes, lots of people believe that religion also.
     
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    Perhaps he's just making an observation....observing and
    giving an opinion is not necessarily the same as condemning or "Disparaging someone's religion".
    "I see no purpose for it (religion).
    If it ever had significance...whatever it's meaning was...
    has been diluted, lost or mutilated beyond recognition.
    Look around...what has religion done for humanity?
    People still killing each other off...still greedy, selfish,
    egotistical bast**ds.
    Humans have been around forever....
    all their education, technology, religion, .etc.,
    and they still can't figure out how to get along."

    Maybe if "religion" had accomplished anything of value...

    you would not be an atheist.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    and you offer the modern day alternative? MSM, alleged science, da guv, packed with lies and any which way the wind blows.
     
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    There may be lots of good info contained in religious texts...
    why make a religion out of them.
     
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    I'd like to see comparative citations please.
     
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    why not?
    would you prefer we make statutes out of them?
    statutes create religion where you enjoy being at the business end of a barrel of a gun
    Im sure thats prefered right?
     
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    I don't recall offering anything....
    You seem to have math and science skills.
    Is it not sometimes valuable to know what doesn't work
    when you are attempting to solve a problem?
     
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    The key word is maybe. I'm not predicting anything...
    it's just a observation.
     
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    Yes good point.
    All those statues didn't help matters much either....
    except maybe the artist.
    At least if he was busy making statues,
    his mind wasn't stuck in phase locked loop.
     
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    geezus already

    https://memory.loc.gov/ammem/amlaw/lwsl.html
     
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    Thanks for link.
    Heard someone giving a company talk one time that claimed
    all of the laws were created because of 5% of the people.
    I took that to mean that 95% would not need them if it weren't for the other 5%.
     
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    The best religion is definitely of the disorganized variety, and the only thing better than that is no religion at all!
     
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    That has nothing to do with the false gods of physics.

    So you do not know the function of a broker?
    I dont know any of this, you need to cite the sources you rely upon.
     
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    Religion involves a dedicated acceptance of a higher power of which there is ZERO evidence. It is based on faith without evidence, as the Bible states - and I would claim other religions have the same requirement.

    Accomplishing something isn't a justification in my opinion.

    I don't claim that religions have not accomplished anything.
     
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    I stand by what I said.

    And, I did NOT suggest what you are proposing here.
     
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    says you!
    prove it!
    citation?
     
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    No one ever said everything peddled by religion is a fairy tale. Why didn't you ask if a guy creating the Universe in 6 days is a fairy tale? In any case I've been eating pork all my life and so far I'm still around. In fact I don't know anyone who was "killed" eating pork.

    None of the above is a "religion", these are scientific theories. Once again you're conflating scientific theory with religion. No one I ever heard of prays to the "big bang" or "evolution" and there are no temples built around these scientific theories. No one I know is forced to accept these theories as true.

    I have no idea what your point is but these are not arguments that challenge what I posted (if that's your objective).
     
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    Was the "don't eat pork" thing ever more than a health and safety issue that worked its way into religion?
     
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    Neither did you stipulate any exceptions Bob!
    A guy? I have no idea if God is a guy, or what God is for that matter, but if God is a guy you are way ahead of me, got a pic of him?
    Oh? Would you like to know where to find pigs infested with trichina? Its best when rare. Well see how long you survive.
    Based in faith Bob, unless you can prove the big bang is a fact.
    Faith in unproven scientific theories is 'religion'.
    Sorry there is no proof what so ever the big bang is true, but if you think you can go for it.
    LOL
    Big bang falls under science, the false god that would be worshiped is science, the source, not the object.
    no one I know is forced to accept any religion Bob, do you think people are forced to accept a religion? Well outside our guv that has firmly established themselves as a religion literally before the ink was dry.
    right! lol
     

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