If you had the power, would you kill the Trinity?

Now reconcile the above with this (from your OP)

" After reading reports of God/Yahweh and Jesus killing instead of curing, the opposite of the thing Jesus said he came to do, --- one has to reject and condemn those mass murderers."

Does becoming "bretheren to Jesus" include being rude, condescending and insulting to others? Do adults do that?

 

Yes. Moral ones.

You can answer that by telling us how many times Jesus had to run away from crowds that he infuriated.

As to being rude, condescending and insulting to others, I do that only after they stupidly try to justify their evil ways with beliefs instead of goo moral sense.

If you are worried about the characteristics you put being used, then ask your right wing Christian friends to stop using those things against gays and women.

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Should I tell them to "take the dick out of their mouth" like you set the example of?
Your "morals" are very queer and peculiar.

 

I am not surprised that you would think good morals to be weird.

That is your Christian indoctrination that has you honoring genocide, homophobia and misogyny.

I see your dick fixation is still with you. Get over it.

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You are a terrible ambassador for any would be, gnostic convert.

 

Depends. If God is required for contingency, would that destroy the world?

Could I threaten God? Kill him only if he doesn't do what I say?

You're very specific about the trinity, rather than God as a whole. Could I kill just one aspect? Kill the Holy Ghost to show I'm serious?

 

Actually, Adam was way down the list. God first created everything else, light, dark, sky, sun, earth, all the animals and creatures. Then he created Adam. Then he created Eve, the final thing. So if God created all things previous to Adam for Adam. Then it could be argued that Eve was his crowning achievement, and that it all was made for her. Granted it is said that she was made for Adam. But what a helpmate..... the Mother of all mankind, Adams continuance and the archway of kingdoms, dynasties and flags unfurled. All of history, all the greater and lesser ones, even us, all from Eve. May god bless Eve forever. What a legacy. God does not hate his own purpose or his own Sons and Daughters. That would be ridiculous. Women are special. Thru a woman, Mary, came the redemption and salvation via Gods only begotten Son, Jesus and his holy mission.

 

agree, why do Christians and Muslims care what others believe?

why do they want to force their beliefs on others?

 

back then in biblical times, people needed God to be a vengeful jealous God..... so that is what their leaders created

 

The "trinity" exists only as a concept that people believe in. Logically, there is no way it could actually exist. So it becomes a question of if this lie has done more harm or good. Part of me would feel bad about taking away a comforting lie that many people use to feel better about death than I do. But the loss of this lie would also create the opportunity to turn towards science and morals based upon the effect on other real people, and not on the alleged desires projected onto a made-up god by bronze age men. Religion based upon bronze age morals holds us back in realizing what's important. So on balance, yes I would.

 

All religions are shrinking thanks to our better education of the young.

I prefer to add nails in the most vile of the right wings of the stupid who believe in a literal supernatural genocidal god, that they can somehow see as good.

They never justify, just send the inquisitions and jihads.

They love St. Hitler. That's bad realy realy bad, as Trump would say.

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DL

 

IDK.

This is a moral question, not modus.

You like that prick. Right?

Armageddon and Christians wishing to kill off the vast majority, cannot be healthy thinking.

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DL

 

So lost in fantasy land that you ignore all moral thinking.

Pathetic.

Come back and discuss your satanic morals and not your fantasies.

On Jesus dying for Christians. Try to think in a moral way.

It takes quite an inflated ego to think a god would actually die for us, after condemning us unjustly in the first place.

Christians have swallowed a lie and don’t care how evil they make Jesus to keep their feel good get out of hell free card.

It is a lie, first and foremost, because, like it or not, having another innocent person suffer or die for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral.

To abdicate your personal responsibility for your actions or use a scapegoat is immoral.

Christians also have to ignore what Jesus, as a Jewish Rabbi, would have taught his people.

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.

Psa 49;7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:

There is no way that Christians would teach their children to use a scapegoat to escape their just punishments and here you are promoting doing just that.

Jesus is just a smidge less immoral than his demiurge genocidal father, and here you are trying to put him as low in moral fiber as Yahweh. Tsk tsk.

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DL

 

As above so below.

It is our love of drama and war that breeds that desire, I think.

Politics is the same.

We all, right and left, want strong leaders, be they of our stripe or not.

Let's not deflect too far into psychobabble that cannot yet be shown to be true.

Have you heard this?

Blood Meridian - The Judge on War ("War is God") - Cormac McCarthy - YouTube

War is also the one who holds political power.

Presidents and other puppets of our oligarch owners.

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DL

 

Good.

Do not live inhibiting your hate against what harms to those you love; the gays and women ---, even in your own family, --- who feel the effects of religious homophobia and misogyny.

Try to insult those who deserve it with more couth and aplomb than I have.

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DL

 

Who was the holy ghost before he became a ghost?

 

Mary committed adultery so why wasn't she stoned to death?

 

How could Mary commit adultery when she wasn't married. And her conception was no more the result of coitus than those healed by Jesus were the result of a surgical procedure. She wasn't stoned because Joseph married her before anyone knew of her condition.

 

Yes, well perhaps it's just I'm self aware enough to realize I'm in no position to make snap judgements about the 'moral goodness' of other people (especially people I've never met) based solely on their answer to one random question on an internet forum. Apparently you don't have that problem.

As for the comment would I have 'chosen to kill the evil Yahweh'. That's just lame. You've just told everyone whose interested (not that many are) that you didn't even ask the question you posited in good faith (i.e. out of any genuine interest in receiving a range of different answers) but instead because you wanted people to choose your answer. You weren't interested in honest debate, just in receiving affirmation of your own opinions.

So here's a hint. Don't ask questions that require reasoned analysis or a logical thinking if you don't want a reasoned and logical answer (which is what I gave you BTW).

Furthermore the answer I gave had nothing to do with my own beliefs on the topic. Trinitarian or atheist, anyone could have given you the same answer I did because your question doesn't require religious faith to answer. Just analysis.Your question makes the starting assumption that the Trinity exists, any answer flows from that start point.

 

Hmmm. Lots of grand sweeping claims. But no facts. How for instance would you prove your claim that 'not one person that has ever lived has believed in the Jesus character.'?

Here's a hint. First look up the meaning of word 'historicity'. Then answer this question. Did Socrates exist?

 

According to the rules she was engaged. Then she got knocked up by some ghost. That is adultery under the rules. But then the Jesus came did come from a long line of hookers.

 

Well, I think the morality of the situation depends on the details.

I've mentioned before that I am not a Christian. I don't expect you to remember everything I've said, but I was hoping you'd make wild assertions less often.

 

Because of an Angel who came to him in a dream, Joseph accepted her virginity and did not divorce her. So she broke no law, not of man or God. Or are you saying that you know more about their hearts and minds than did they?

 

Correct.

Thanks for lying, or trolling.

Answer the moral question or stop wasting my time.

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Then don't show their morals with support.

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