We'd Be Better Off Without Religion

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by resisting arrest, Aug 19, 2021.

  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2014
    Messages:
    68,085
    Likes Received:
    17,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Why then was that denied about Hitler in the true history of the 3rd Reich?

    I am still laughing my ass off at Stalin being a Christian.

    [​IMG]
     
  2. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2014
    Messages:
    68,085
    Likes Received:
    17,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Could be. But Constantine brought Christianity to the realm.
     
  3. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,673
    Likes Received:
    1,771
    Trophy Points:
    113
    WOW what a dishonest post, I salute anyone that defends the facts, your post is pure bunk!

    [​IMG]
    Image by Alexander Historical Auct...

    Rosa Bernile Nienau and Adolf Hitler pose for a picture on April 20, 1933. It was her seventh birthday and his 44th. Nienau pressed edelweiss flowers and a four-leaf clover onto the photograph.

    But Hitler and Nienau’s relationship was more than a one-off photo op. Hitler appears to have been exceedingly fond of the child, the only daughter of a single mother, Karoline Nienau, even after he heard of her Jewish background.

    Hitler and Nienau corresponded after their first encounter and even appear to have met more times in person at the Berghof until Martin Bormann, Hitler’s secretary, learned of Nienau’s heritage in 1938. He then barred her from any further contact with Nazi officials including the leader of the Third Reich.


    He also had 150,000 Jewish soldiers in his ranks, many that had the highest ranks.

    If he hated the Jews he did a piss poor job showing it.

    All hitler ever wanted was for the people that raped germany to pay them back, which is why he arrested rothschild chief zionist J-W, the zionist J-Ws with rothschild as the leader bisected and screwed germany into complete starvation.

    You need to seriously do some studying on the subject.
     
    Last edited: Sep 1, 2021
  4. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,673
    Likes Received:
    1,771
    Trophy Points:
    113
    yep with a big stick!
     
  5. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,673
    Likes Received:
    1,771
    Trophy Points:
    113
    stalins mother sent him to some kind of monastery until he picked up a book by karl marx, out the door he went and it was all over but the river of blood that followed.
     
    Last edited: Sep 1, 2021
  6. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,673
    Likes Received:
    1,771
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Take a pause and consider this: Politics IS religion taken public! Liberty is the exercise of that religion in public.
     
  7. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,518
    Likes Received:
    27,043
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You think everything is religion. Even atheism.
     
  8. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,673
    Likes Received:
    1,771
    Trophy Points:
    113
    sure virtually everything can be constructed and set up such that it qualifies for a religion. atheism has long been there and bought that tshirt.
     
  9. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2021
    Messages:
    13,465
    Likes Received:
    9,921
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The only example we have of an atheist government was Stalin’s Russia. To say that would be better is complete insanity so I agree with you here
     
  10. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    63,706
    Likes Received:
    13,464
    Trophy Points:
    113
    this is just monstrous nonsense ... Rome had a State Religion- and in many cases the leader was head of that state religion 'Pontifex Maximus" - something the popes later claimed.

    You are hoplessly wrong - and the rest of your post is equally wrong - spiritualism is not atheism - and it normally involves belief in a "higher power" = a God.

    Then all of a sudden you warp into more onsense in relation to sexual sin .... What sexual sin are you referring to ?
     
    Kokomojojo likes this.
  11. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    63,706
    Likes Received:
    13,464
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What is your point ? The claim on the table is that the Roman's did not believe in God ?
     
  12. Cougarbear

    Cougarbear Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2019
    Messages:
    2,450
    Likes Received:
    1,146
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I think the really only thing needed to know Hitler's heart was he killed 6,000,000 JEWS! Why are you defending him? As far as those soldiers who were Jewish, you might want to do some more studying no the subject yourself. You might find out that Hitler didn't support them unless he needed them as leaders. Then, because he was "god" he could change them into Ayran. This article may give you some better insight so you don't judge these Jews, mostly half Jews - https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/ellen-feldman-nazi-germany
     
  13. Cougarbear

    Cougarbear Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2019
    Messages:
    2,450
    Likes Received:
    1,146
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Mao wasn't a communist? You've got to be kidding! He wouldn't even let Taoism and Budhism be taught. He also stopped a lot of Shaolin Kung Fu monestaries.
     
  14. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2021
    Messages:
    13,465
    Likes Received:
    9,921
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I wasn’t questioning that guy. To tell you the truth I know too little about him to argue but I never said he was or wasn’t a communist. I was referencing Stalin as an atheist.
     
  15. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2012
    Messages:
    29,682
    Likes Received:
    3,995
    Trophy Points:
    113
    One of the main themes in the Bible is that believers must be bigots or else they are failures. It is the basis of the First Commandment.
     
  16. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,673
    Likes Received:
    1,771
    Trophy Points:
    113
    6 million?
    LIES
    I suppose if you have a J-W calculator he killed 6 million.
    6 MIllion figure has long since been proven bullshit.
    The rest of us know that if only 375,000 PEOPLE TOTAL went through auschwitz the max he could have killed is 375,000 PEOPLE TOTAL, Not the 4million your J-W calculator!
    Those J-W calculators had a minor defect, when counting J-Ws it added zeros for some srange reason, most likely due to war reparations europe had to and still do pay.
    [​IMG]
    I defend the truth, like it or not.
    Hitler was part Jew himself.
    Im not judging Jews, Im judging the mountain of BS propaganda you posted.


    By the way, which bunch of 6 million Jews did hitler kill again?

    1919 - The Corsicana Daily Sun, April 9th, 1919, page 8
    «THE AMERICAN JEWISH RELIEF COMMITTEE IS ENDEAVOURING TO SAVE FROM STARVATION SIX MILLION JEWS WHO ARE THE HELPLESS VICTIMS OF THE GERMAN TERROR»

    1919 - San Antonio Express, April 9th, 1919, page 12
    «At no other time in the history of the Jewish people has the need been so great as now. Six million of our brothers and sisters are dying of starvation. The entire race is threatened with extinction»

    1919 - The American Hebrew, October 31st, 1919, page 582
    "The Crucifixion of Jews Must Stop! From across the sea six million men and women call to us for help ... Within them reside the illimitable possibilities for the advancement of the human race as naturally would reside in six million human beings. ... In this catastrophe, when six million human beings are being whirled toward the grave by a cruel and relentless fate, only the most idealistic promptings of human nature should sway the heart and move the hand. Six million men and women are dying from lack of the necessaries of life ...bigoted lust for Jewish blood. In this threatened holocaust of human life in the name of the humanity of Moses to six million famished men and women. Six million men and women are dying ... six million Jewish men and women are starring across the seas...»

    1920 - Manti Messenger (Utah), March 19, 1920
    «Just now some six million of Jews, eight hundred thousand of them just children, are in imminent danger of starvation in eastern Europe»

    1921 - New York Times, July 20, 1921, page 2
    «BEGS AMERICA SAVE 6,000,000 IN RUSSIA. Russia's 6,000,000 Jews are facing extermination by massacre»
     
    Last edited: Sep 2, 2021
  17. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2012
    Messages:
    12,831
    Likes Received:
    5,961
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I'm not aware of that. But I am familiar with the first commandment. I see nothing bigoted in it. I assume you speak for yourself when you speak. So is it bigotry to lay claim to ones own words or to be our Parents fruit and not anothers?
     
  18. Cougarbear

    Cougarbear Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2019
    Messages:
    2,450
    Likes Received:
    1,146
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The anti-semites are alive and well I see. Pretty soon you'll have it down to zero Jews were killed by Hitler. Most of your post here are just red herrings taking the ball off the holocaust and the time frame between 1938-1945. Granted that there is no one document with accurate numbers. That's because most documents were destroyed at the end of the war when Hitler knew the war was lost. But, also, you provide a couple of concentration camp information which is inconclusive for the same reasons. Yet, there were several other locations in which Jews were killed including about 800,000 in the Ghettos of Germany and Poland. Check out this site for other numbers you may be unaware of: https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/cont...victims-of-the-holocaust-and-nazi-persecution
     
  19. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Messages:
    30,976
    Likes Received:
    28,441
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Please explain it, slowly so democrats can understand it, their progressivism is nothing more than a secular version of religion. Hitchens would be the first to agree with me.
     
    Kokomojojo likes this.
  20. ToddWB

    ToddWB Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2018
    Messages:
    6,219
    Likes Received:
    5,401
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    yeah.. I am a follower of the Way, The Truth and the Life.. I reject all other isms that call themselves religions
     
  21. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,673
    Likes Received:
    1,771
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Id bet under examination you are in fact a composite of several 'isms' that are all elemental to your religion that are not included in the ism you claim.
     
  22. ToddWB

    ToddWB Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2018
    Messages:
    6,219
    Likes Received:
    5,401
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Ist tenat of my beleifs... "we are all sinners' so yeah .. maybe..I try my best to follow teh Rule book, the Bible.
     
  23. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2012
    Messages:
    29,682
    Likes Received:
    3,995
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Stalin did appear to follow at least one of the Jesus character's sayings but then Jesus was not a Christian.

    John 15:6 (NKJV) = "6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned."
     
  24. Dirty Rotten Imbecile

    Dirty Rotten Imbecile Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2016
    Messages:
    2,158
    Likes Received:
    869
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Arguably, the lack of a religious identity left the Germans with a sense of meaninglessness. It was a hole easily filled by the extreme nationalist rhetoric of Adolph Hitler.

    I’m not arguing that religion is something we should embrace but it served a function in the history of humanity.
     
  25. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2012
    Messages:
    29,682
    Likes Received:
    3,995
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The Germans were highly religious. They just didn't like Catholics and Jews very much.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Nazi_Germany
     

Share This Page