Roe Vs. Wade should be overturned

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Joe knows, Sep 1, 2021.

  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why is abortion for life developed through a rape not murder while life developed by a 14 year old child murder worthy of a prison sentence?
     
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    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    People like me? When did I say a kid should be punished by law for sexual activity? I said if they have a kid they should deal with it. Choices have consequences no matter what age you are.
     
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    The boys did - often almost “blackmailing” girls into it. So, how many of those boys were taken to the principles office?
     
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    When you stood with that hideous Texas law that makes no exception for rape or incest
     
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    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    If it’s reported immediately then there’s no excuse for it to be at the heartbeat stage is there
     
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    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    Cry me a River. It’s more hideous to allow women to murder their young.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Children are not typically punished the same as adults because they lack the facilities and awareness to make those decisions.

    I am just glad you are acknowledging this life you care for so deeply is actually just a punishment in your eyes.

    Which is even more disturbing
     
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    !! Part of your argument but you don't know anything about it !!! LOL
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The “heartbeat state” is an arbitrary date being set my you.

    You really cannot answer such a simple question yet you feel you are informed enough to force others to lose control of their body? Fascinating

    And again, not all rapes are reported quickly — or at all.
     
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    I never called it a punishment if you start putting words in my mouth like the previous magic reader I won’t discuss this with you either.

    they have options like adoption if they don’t want to raise the baby. It’s better than murder
     
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    Consequence and punishment are synonymous with one another. What did you mean by “Choices have consequences” in the discussion about statutory rape in minors?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Oh , how nice....but they should butt out of other people's mistakes and responsibilities....they have enough to do with their own copious mistakes

    Uh, I'll answer if you tell me what that has to do with the post of mine you quoted ......
     
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    Why is abortion in the case of rape acceptable - but, not if concieved by other means.
     
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    You mean “young” that look like this?
    upload_2021-9-13_21-47-46.jpeg

    Because this is when the vast majority of abortions occur - at week eight

    yes it has a “heart” but it is not inside the chest neither have all four chambers formed
    https://embryology.med.unsw.edu.au/embryology/index.php/Carnegie_stage_16

    Does this look like a “baby”?
    upload_2021-9-13_21-52-33.png



     
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    You are the one "crying a river" - over the "baby zygote" - or the pulsating lump of cells that comes after - fallaciously infering that a child exists - when you have no ability to support that claim - yet on this basis wanting to force your personal beliefs (likely religious) on others through physical violence.
     
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    Their young?
     
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    And if a high school student gets pregnant you think she should be forced to give birth? You really think she is mature enough for motherhood? Why should she sacrifice her entire youth and future for something she does not want?
     
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    She and he shouldn’t have done the deed. Being a high school kid is not an exemption for murder
     
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    Do you really think that saying the trite and bloody obvious, "She and he shouldn’t have done the deed"" does anything?

    Solves anything?


    CHANGES anything?

    MEANS anyting?

    The answer is NO.


    WHEN are you going to prove abortion is murder....repeating it mindlessly doesn't change a thing and why haven't you reported these "murders" to the cops???
     
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    If you truly believe that then you would also believe in ending all wars and all forms of capital punishment.
     
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    Why shouldn't they?
     
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    No, wars and capital punishment are justifiable. Defense from an aggressor is completely acceptable. And I won’t advocate for the end of capital punishment either. Those are reactions to an action. Abortion is murder to the child without it have ever doing anything wrong other than existing. It’s wrong plain and simple
     
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    Abortion is not murder. In fact, it is not even anything close to murder. Abortion simply terminates a pregnancy, it ends the life of a potential human being. Furthermore, the ZEF has actually done something wrong which is threatening the unwillingly pregnant woman's values -- She does not want to be a mother and having it live inside and of her interferes and conflicts with this value.
     
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    Joe - your claim that a zygote is a child is assumed premise fallacy. You projeting your fantasy about what might happen in the future into the present.
     
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    It seems, by and large, the same folks who want to outlaw abortion are the same folks that don't want companies to have to include birth control in their insurance plans or have comprehensive sex education at school. They're also the same people who call mothers on social assistance 'welfare queens'. And also the ones who want Planned Parenthood clinics to close - the very ones who provide free contraception to women who cannot afford it.

    Instead of focusing their considerable attention on the end result, why not support all those who want women to have access to all those things that can prevent abortion in the first place?

    And, how many of those folks who are screaming to prevent abortions have adopted or fostered all the hundreds of thousands of children needing homes across our country? I could support the pro lifers who are desperately against abortion if they would only be consistent with the care for the lives of the born.
     
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