Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took top-secret action to protect nuclear weapons

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  1. ChiCowboy

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    I have no disagreement with that. The craziest thing is claiming Trump was an anti-war POTUS. We dodged a bullet with that one. Passengers on a Ukrainian airliner weren't so lucky.
     
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    MARK MILLEY (We Don't Call Traitors "General"): GUILTY AS CHARGED
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    "Mark Milley conspired with senior military officers of the Chinese Communist Party against his boss, President Donald Trump." Skepticism was in order "that any American military officer would do such a dishonorable thing" as "Milley had not yet disputed Woodward’s charges."

    This statement "by Joint Staff Spokesperson Col. Dave Butler," shows "that Woodward’s reporting is, shockingly, accurate. Col. Butler’s statement was issued in response to Woodward’s report and the firestorm of controversy that it ignited. Thus, the most significant fact about the statement is that it does not deny the truth of any part of Woodward’s account. Rather, Col. Butler tries to put Woodward’s reporting in a sympathetic light."
    Want a return to sanity and reason? Vote Republican in the upcoming elections.
     
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    He wiped out the ISIS caliphate and drew down in Syria and Afghanistan. Americans weren't being killed.

    Contrast that with Obama who destabilized several Arab and north African countries along with aiding Iran.

    Contrast that with Biden who has already allowed another defacto terrorist state to rise, complete with shiny new gear. He also killed US military and innocent children.
     
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    No kidding?

    Milley's calls are listened to by at least 15 people.... each time.

    It's already out. Buy the book.

    And for the parts that portray Trump as unhinged, you'll do your usual and convince yourself that it's all lies.
     
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    Stop deflecting.

    Trump was not an anti-war POTUS. I proved it. QED.
     
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    It's useless.

    Election are rigged.
     
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    In Other words China understands trump's mental "state" better than his followers do.
     
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    Won't be buying the book.

    Will be watching for the investigation.

    Its going to be interesting to see what Biden does in response. On one hand, Milley could be Bidens fall guy over Afghanistan.

    On the other, the lefts reflexive orange man bad spasticity may compell Biden to keep him.

    Its kind of like a Mexican standoff at this point...Biden has dirt on Milley and vice versa.

    And the investigations to come will serve as a flash point.
     
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    Not deflecting in the least.

    This thread is about Trumps general colluding with China, and Trump is the anti war POTUS.

    He did kill a Terrorist with a drone strike and I supported that fully.

    Obama and Biden can't say that.
     
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    So you are saying our military has no responsibility to the citizenry? Sort of like N. Korea or Communist China? I think his actions are treasonous and we will soon find out.
     
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    The ONLY reasons that the Orange Idiot did not start a war was

    a) he wanted to be seen as “the great negotiator”
    B) ever sensitive to criticism he hated the chewing out he got the rew times he DID get involved ie with the Kurds
    C) his complete lack of knowledge in relation to international treaties kept getting him in trouble

    and most importantly

    He is too freaking lazy to be a wartime leader
     
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    To defend the Constitution the must submit to citizen leadership. They do not circumvent the citizens. Leastwise they do not fraternize with the enemy.
    Oh.....excuse me, I forgot! Milley says Communist China, who just gave us COVID is not our enemy!
     
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    You, far left of center, declared Trump was going to have us in a war with North Korea. None of your feined fears even came close to happening. If so, prove it!
     
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    Trumps always been a dove and it even helped spur the middle east peace accords.

    Peace through strength is a thing, even if lefties pretend otherwise.
     
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    Their reality is inverted.
     
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    Evidence or not (and if there is to be an investigation, which is still an unknown, there very well may be), these are very serious allegations, and some people here, including you, seem ready to literally pin a medal on Milley's chest for having done things that, if the allegations are true, are Treasonous. That doesn't make the allegations true, and I've been crystal clear in virtually every post I've made on the subject that his having done what he has been accused of is at this point, nothing but an allegation.

    But there are many people on this very thread who do not care. They want to find some way to justify that behavior even if it did happen. Trump is/was nuts, and Milley saved us from WWIII, all that bullshit. Well, the very fact that Trump in fact made no effort to do what everybody seems worried or even convinced he was going to do speaks volumes. The very same people that are saying he wanted to, almost did, was going to, or whatever phrase you feel like using were probably here (or elsewhere) in the summer and fall of 2016 swearing up and down that if he was elected, he would start WWIII within days of being sworn in, if not hours or even minutes. He did have that authority, the moment the Chief Justice finished administering the oath, but he didn't do anything of the sort, then, or now.
     
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    Bulldust!
    I am an Aussie - we are a small nation surrounded by some pretty loud Sabre rattlers. We LIVE “Peace when and where we can” because we know that it is highly probable that although WE have helped YOU every time it was asked you will not reciprocate.
    Over the last four years we have watched Chinas increasing aggression in the South China Sea and Trump play at being “the deal maker” not watching the increasing threat
     
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    After Trump won in 2016 he claimed `there were 3-5 million illicit ballots in the election without every proving it. He claimed that Obama had bugged the Trump Tower without proof. Trump screamed over and over on twitter and over the air waves that all negative news about him were fake without offering a shread of evidnennce. Trump was a flaming screaming paranoid who was not rational or normal .
    At least 4 generals that worked for him called him nuts.. But you think thats normal?

    When you say the same guy you mean the same ranting guy who told the public that he was going to cut down covid-19 testing (he said he wasn't kidding) in order to lower the number of covid-19 patients which was making his administration look bad. This was when 10s of thousands were dying of the disease. You actually think this is a normal thing for a president to do during a raging pandemic. You are in no position to judge trumps state of mind.

    When thousands were dying of covid-19 under his administration he threw presidential campaign rallies that were all "mask optional" with many jammed into the venue far less than 6 feet apart. He EXEMPLIFIED to his followers that you could flaunt life saving measures while 10s of thousands were dying of Covid-19 under his regime. He taught his supporters that masks weren't necessary and keeping 6 feet apart was also not necessary. Trump was a sick narcissistic kook who could care less about saving human lives while trying to win an election. Please don't talk about his mental state because you have no ability to tell the difference between the influence of mere citizen as opposed to that of the president of the U.S. Trump while he was running for re-election told his followers months before the election that the democrats were going to steal the 2020 election at the ballot box and he said this over and over without a shred of evidence. His poll watchers sent in thousands of asinine complaints that wound up in lawsuits that clogged the court system. Trump is a destroyer of democracy.

    Seven Days in May.[/QUOTE]
    Are you kidding me!?? Trump is so F’n sick that he still thinks he is the LEGITIMATE president of the United States. Of the two Biden or Trump which one do you think is the LEGITIMATE president of the U.S. This question is necessary because it goes a long way toward resolving whether you can decide Trump's Mental State. So complain about Biden all you want but you don’t have what it takes to put your money where your mouth is.
     
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    I'm not in the current medal-giving club at this time, but I believe history will look kindly on these relatively moderate decisions based on Milley seeing up close what we were all seeing from farther away....
     
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    Biden might be as uninspiring as they some, but in the end of the say we really dodged a bullet by getting Trump fired. This nuke thing is one issue, and the "I don't wanna be your friend anymore" cries show a severe mental problem.
     
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    Who cares what Communist China thinks??? Milley does.
     
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    You who put O'Biden in office have absolutely no credibility when it comes to judging "mental states".
     
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    When China is afraid of being attacked by a crazy President, what it thinks matters a lot.
     
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    Your clumsy attempts to distract us away from the central FACT that Gen. Milley is charged with very, VERY serious and specific crimes is obvious!

    A person in your faction and a person in my faction are unlikely to agree on much, Arkanis, but we should at least be able to acknowledge the FACT that charges have been levied against Gen. Milley, and that they must (MUST) be answered!

    It may surprise you to know that I (for one) do not call for Gen. Milley to be "fired" from his current position... no, precisely because if he were fired this morning it would be grossly unfair TO Gen. Milley! Every citizen of the United States, including Gen. Milley deserves to receive the full measure of judicial process -- and because Gen. Milley is a member of the Armed Forces, justice for him and everyone else who in our military is detailed in the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Link: https://jsc.defense.gov/Portals/99/Documents/UCMJ - 20December2019.pdf?ver=2020-01-28-083235-930 .

    Therefore the proper way to address this whole issue is for the process to begin -- LEGALLY -- not through some damned media witch-hunt circus -- toward a court martial of Gen. Milley. His guilt or innocence can be determined -- LEGALLY. Now, for the last time, I ask you as honestly as I know how, why would any American citizen or member of its Armed Forces object to THAT?!
     
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    Your clumsy attempts to distract us away from the central FACT that Gen. Milley is charged with very, VERY serious and specific crimes is obvious!

    A person in your faction and a person in my faction are unlikely to agree on much, Arkanis, but we should at least be able to acknowledge the FACT that charges have been levied against Gen. Milley, and that they must (MUST) be answered!

    It may surprise you to know that I (for one) do not call for Gen. Milley to be "fired" from his current position... no, precisely because if he were fired this morning it would be grossly unfair TO Gen. Milley! Every citizen of the United States, including Gen. Milley deserves to receive the full measure of judicial process -- and because Gen. Milley is a member of the Armed Forces, justice for him and everyone else who is in our military is detailed in the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Link: https://jsc.defense.gov/Portals/99/Documents/UCMJ - 20December2019.pdf?ver=2020-01-28-083235-930 .

    Therefore the proper way to address this whole issue is for the process to begin -- LEGALLY -- not through some damned media witch-hunt circus -- toward a court martial of Gen. Milley. His guilt or innocence can be determined -- LEGALLY. Now, for the last time, I ask you as honestly as I know how, why would any American citizen or member of its Armed Forces object to THAT?!
     
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