The Big Lie is (unfortunately) winning

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

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    Getting 60% vote is a blow-out, but where do you get that 85% of Californians are Dem, when about half of that number is true? Trump-talk?

    "California had 22,047,448 registered voters, comprising 87.87% of its total eligible voters. Of those registered voters, 10,170,317 (46.10 percent) were registered Democrats, 5,334,323 (24.20 percent) were Republicans and, 5,283,853 were No Party Preference (24.00 percent)."
     
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    And this shows you won't answer the questions, proving you're hiding something.
     
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    ???

    Make sense, please.
     
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    A single poll with a very poorly worded question is not really stating anything different.

    One could think that elections in this country do not reflect the will of the people without believing that millions of fake ballots were introduced in the last election.
     
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    You remember that when your perpetual democrat control of the government takes hold because they’re cheating in every election now and no one can stop them.

    When you finally realize they’re cheating do you think they’re going to let you verify either? They’re going to do the same thing to you they and you are doing to us. Say you’re a crazy conspiracy theorist and that you don’t need to verify, just trust them.
     
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    A conspiracy theorist :)
    I guess I should take your assessment of me as a compliment? Or maybe the term was beyond your understanding ;)
     
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  7. Flynn from Az

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    So believing Trump was a super secret KGB agent is less nutty than people being capable of stealing a election. Look, I just did the same exact thing as you.
     
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    Even then, it would have to reach suitable receptors...
     
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    Are you even kidding me. 24% are republican and given the historical vote tallies for Democrats you just going to fail to mention the unregistered party voters huh. Like they don't exist?
    Don't even try and go there.
    You think a Democrat Gov getting recalled in a predominate democrat voting state and only able to survive by 12% is a blow out? And to even accomplish that he had to spend 5 times more money (276 million) of tax payer money? Lets not even discuss that he ran on Elder being the black face of white supremist. Now we know where the majority of white supremist really live. Don't we.
    If a republican ran under those conditions it would be world news about every republican on the planet is a white supremist.

    Most even realized he ran against Trump, not Elder. You care to provide one of his accomplishments he ran on? Since he has none.
     
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    Is that goal post heavy? It has to be hard to move it around so much.
     
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  12. Flynn from Az

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    Oh,so sky screamers weren’t saying trump was a super secret KGB agent recruited in the 80’s?
    I know it’s sucks for you, having your logic turned around on you. When it happens to me, I try to examine if I need to take a second look at my viewpoints, instead of doubling down like you are. If you have a actual coherent argument, that rarely happens. Further more, you should really learn what moving goal posts actually means.
     
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    No, not kidding

    Claim: 85% of Californians are Democrat
    Truth: Less than half, - 46% are Democrat

    Verdict: FALSE aka a LIE

    Newsome won 64 to 36 and that kind of margin is known as "blowout win". Heck, he won by a bigger margin that he did when he was initially elected.

    Since 24% of CA voters are independent, then obviously Newsome got more of them than Elder did

    What are you trying to prove?
     
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    Yes, some were saying that, but that is not what we were talking about. you have now had to move the goal post instead of just admitting you were wrong.

    I know what moving the goal post actual means, and going from "Russia tried to influence the election" to "trump was a super secret KGB agent recruited in the 80’s" is a perfect example of doing so.
     
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    Be careful mr I didn’t vote for Biden. Your partisanslip is showing
     
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    :roflol:
    Let me get this straight. According to you, the poll can't possibly be right because CNN worded it in a way that would support Republican claims about the big lie?
    The same big lie CNN has been reporting on since November?

    Just curious, who did you think you could actually sell that nonsense too?
     
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    While countries get tens of hundreds of thousands, we citizens get peasants and as you can see by the early responses, we've been so conditioned pavlov's dog style that we actually find it acceptable and rather than take a good hard look in the mirror, I'm accused of supporting the GOP(ROFL.)

    I intend to destroy both the GOP/DNC, I've always wanted to destroy the two political parties(politically speaking of course.) As the Whig party became the Republicans in 1912. It's long overdue for a new political fissure to occur. To call the current political leadership representative would be to be a lie. The Iranian who posted here is more accurate than any of us are in our pavlov dog condition.

    Call me when our public House decides to represent us financially for once.
     
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    When you knowingly leave out the 23% of registered voters that have no party designation, you invalidate your own claim.
    Somehow you conveniently have no clue how the overwhelming votes have been historically tabulated in California?
    I base my claim on actual voting history
    You try and sell yours on registration
    Think I'll go with how they actually vote
     
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    “Believing the earth is flat is nuttier than believing that Mattress Firm was laundering money for the mob.”
    :rolleyes:
     
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    people believe the big lie is real in the same way some believe the WWE is real
     
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    You can feel unrepresented, and you can oppose foreign aid, but the two have no correlation. That's my point.

    The losing side never feels represented. That's human nature, and "destroying" the parties will do nothing to change that.
     
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    ABSURD, this belief that since only 96% of black voters have ID while 98% of whites do, any ID requirement for voting is an attempt to disefranchise the black vote. Its basic CRT BS.
    Need an audit to try reality.
     
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    More audits? How many you need?

    The results have been audited to death. That's the reality some refuse to accept.
     
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    How about one signature verification audit of one full county.
     
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    The framers based their claims for the founding of our nation on a tea tax. Our current situation of giving away billions to foreign countries(they could've never foreseen we'd have that wealth, never mind to give it away) would have them pissed as hell, and we should be too.

    So to say they have no correlation is to say that we(well, those who accept our current predicament) have no standards for this government and thus, the idea of "will of the people" is itself, a big lie. We haven't been represented in my lifetime on earth. We might not be represented again. And as you say, it might be regardless of which configuration of the Congress if foreign money/lobbyists still rule.
     

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