Oregon teacher removes American flag from classroom, says it 'stands for violence....

That would be insane. Fortunately, only the claims you are making are insane. Public schools do not teach children to hate anyone.

 

Really? We saw videos of teachers telling their students to hate Trump.

 

Everyone is missing the point here. It should be up to whatever the policy of that school is and not the personal feelings of one over entitled employee that thinks they can shove their political agenda down the throats of others
Everyone needs to shut the hell up and do their jobs

 

Considering the teach said the flag stood 'for violence and menace and intolerance', profane is just another word to describe to her anger. She didn't say 'to be equal to not having other flags in the room, let's remove this one' She was quite clear in her feelings towards the flag. IMO, it was an act of spite and anger.

I did the morning salute all through school, and it was about showing respect to the country that provides the ability to seek freedom and happiness for each person.

 

That's a discussion to hold with your Oregon State Legislator, or, if you view the law as an illegitimate exercise of legislative authority, to take to the closest courtroom. Absent that, it binds her conscience, and while she may choose to leave the classroom, she cannot legitimately remove the flag from the classroom.

The Law does not control your mind, it controls your actions. The People of The Great State of Oregon, through their elected representatives, require the US flag in the classroom. She is not required to "believe it" she is only required to "leave it" in place. If balancing her desire to honor the collective will of her fellow citizens against her personal revulsion toward the flag results in her decision to leave the classroom, that's her right as a Free Person, but, what she does not have a legitimate right to do, is remove the flag from the classroom, which is what she has done, and bragged about on social media.

Now, if she thinks the flag in the classroom violates her personal rights, our system guarantees her the right to petition for redress from either or both the Court or the Legislature. I see no evidence that she has availed herself of these lawful opportunities.

One of the things I like about a good corrective action process is that it requires the supervisor to write down clear expectations and the means to accomplish them. I think this would increase her ability to make an informed decision.

 

Her stated reasons are that our flag "stands for violence and menace and intolerance". To me that's suitably reduced to "profane" but that was my condensation of her reason cited from memory.

Yes, she disagreed with the school board's decision not to allow BLM and LGBTQ Pride symbols in the classroom. If her target was the school board then wouldn't it make more sense to violate their prohibition by posting the BLM and LGBTQ symbols in defiance of the School Board rather than violating the State Law requiring the flag to be posted in the classroom?

To me her attempts to justify her lawless act confirm her poor grasp of her responsibility to be a law abiding citizen in good standing with the various authorities she is accountable to and calls her decision making skills into question. I'm sure that her teaching contract requires her to remain a citizen in good standing as a condition of remaining a force of influence in the classroom.

Your thoughts?

 

I don't know if you know much about my state, but in about 75% of the geographic area, your generalization would be laughed at. You probably should have just referenced the city, Portland which is far more diverse and progressive than is Salem or even Eugene/ Springfield. This does not surprise me in Portland.

Here's how I look at this. It depends on how broad you are defining the phrase 'political symbol' I treat national or state flags as like entities. I would treat the American flag the same way I treat the Mexican or Israeli flag or the Oregon state flag. I am not offended by them. I don't want them excluded or required.

With others, its going to get dicey. Are all cultural symbols or identity symbols by definition political? Probably. I think we are wiser if the school district does not promote some in the classroom.

Somehow I see a teacher putting a small 'flag' on her desk as less of a problem than one stretched across the school room wall.

 

The American flag represents ALL Americans, the LGBT and blm flags do not. Democrats are fond of saying 'that's not who we are.' But as Americans, that flag absolutely represents who we are and people should be appreciative and proud of it.

As of right now the flag belongs in the classroom. It should be there because it's the one thing in this country right now that represents all people on all sides.

 

Th plot thickens:

 

If the American flag is a political symbol what political persuasion does it represent? democracy?

 

No snark, dead serious here. It looks like teaching kids to feel guilty over something they didn't do in a state with a 2% black population is backfiring, they're literally acting out what they're being taught. And there's nothing racist about it as slaves came in all shapes and sizes. In fact, the bidding for slaves is alive and well in Africa and Asia, but getting a leftist to admit that would be impossible, they'd probably say it's racist just to mention it.

 

Apparently you have no idea what the 50 stars, the 13 stripes stand for or what the red, white and blue mean? They are empirical to every reason the experiment was created and the reason why this nation became the worlds greatest country ever. There is EXTREME value in what this flag represents.

 

Why should we teach civics? So kids have a clue how our system works?

 

Oregon teacher is an idiot and should pack bags and leave country now.

 

Here's another one who shouldn't be allowed near a classroom. The irony with both of these teachers is they work for the government.

 

Civics is political right? Apples to apples.

 

Oregon risks going the way of California, to becoming, basically, a third world country.

 

Why have the US flag? Because this is America. Perhaps to honor the 1.1 million American soldiers that have died in war. Perhaps to remind us that we live in a great country.

Next you probably will ask/question (or maybe not) why we have a picture of Joe Biden on the wall of all major Federal buildings.

 

I am sure San Frandildo or some other liberal shithole will be removing all American flags soon.

 

I disagree with the teacher

but, let's be honest, the only reason the flag is there now is that republicans added "under God" to the pledge a few years ago, and now they want every one to repeat it, remove the "under God", the pledge and flag should represent ALL Americans