Cancer cells.....cannot survive in the presence of high levels of oxygen

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Why in God's name would you jump to some 100 year old "solution" to something so thoroughly and continuously studied for that full period of time?

    Sorry, Dennis. There has been massive work on cancer, and it has included huge amounts of testing throughout the US and the rest of the world - yes, even including Canada.

    Is this just more of your total rejection of any result from modern science?
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because doctors have not really kept their Hippocratic Oath and doctors have NOT accomplished with that extremely simple idea what potentially could have been done with that idea.
     
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    You have presented ZERO evidence of that.

    Science on cancer has advanced HUGELY over the last 100 years, and your accusation here is totally baseless.
     
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  4. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A quotation from a doctor is not zero evidence.
     
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    It certainly is when compared to 100 years of advancement in medical science, with significant emphasis on cancer, including the experience of decades of large scale testing and treatment.

    As a result, the life expectancy of cancer patients has increased dramatically since the days of long ago as a direct result of that advancement.

    Suggesting home remedies is a MAJOR PROBLEM, because it encourages people to delay actual diagnosis and treatment.

    That is how homeopathy kills. And, it is why the untested nonsense of homeopathic quackery has to be put to an end.

    Please do not contribute to the deaths of those who contract cancer.
     
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    Near enough

    The medical profession has its kooks too!
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is nice to finally see a photo of Dr. Warburg.

    "No Disease,including cancer can live in an alkaline environment." (Dr. Otto Warburgh, 1931 Novel Prize winner for cancer discovery)

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    Ha ha and neither can the patient.. There are a plethora of treatments that treat diseases……..that cause even more harm to the patient. Big deal.
     
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    Surely you jest. What evidence do you have that doctors in general violate their oath ?
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You may not have been paying very good attention to how the truth about the effectiveness of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine was hidden from the ignorant masses like myself?!


    It may take another six months.....
    perhaps a year... but sooner or later all of us will see the rather dark humour in articles like the following.

    Technically the following comments are true....
    but the critical information is the dosages that some people consumed. (Perhaps deliberately to make an interesting article that a friend of theirs may have wanted to write)????

     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you have two hours to spare this documentary will give you some background information that will explain some of those cases.


     
  14. dagosa

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    Oh, you watched a film. Was this before or after the original Godzilla movie.
     
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    Wow…..strange article, equally strange ideas
     
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    Seriously. Why would you jump from one conspiracy theory to another instead of just researching the recommendations and work of all the medical research facilities in the US. You have a problem with the same people who fight all the other diseases we have but not when it comes to covid. Why would you you trust them for your cancer treatments and hemorrhoids but not covid Funny logic.
     
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    Cancer cells do not show up in blood tests, unless one has leukemia or lymphoma.
     
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    Seriously ? The Hippocratic oath including doing no harm, is accomplished by abiding by the most recent medical research and recommendations. .
     
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    Gee, that was 90 years ago. Doesn’t do much good. Patients can’t survive in an alkaline environment strong enough to kill their cancer. . We could eliminate all cancer by putting patients in a lot of environments that do them more harm then good.
     
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    Science fail.

    Your blood pH is alkaline.

    Normal blood pH is 7.35 - 7.40, although some are as high as 7.45.

    Your organs will fail and you could very well die, if your blood pH increases in alkalinity, or becomes acidic.

    Your Appeal to Authority Fallacy also fails. Warbug might have discovered a cancer, but he did not discover all cancers and whatever he knew is vastly outdated and antiquated.
     
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    What one doctor says when it comes to medical research, is not evidence.
     
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    mRNA vaccines could be the answer

    "How The COVID-19 Vaccine Could Lead To A Cure For Cancer"

     
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    Really, this is consistent with the newer cancer treatments which use the body’s own immune system to attack cancer cells. For decades, we used chemo, radiation to treat cancer with inconsistent success. Strategies that use both seem to be evolving. To be most effective with limited damage to healthy cells, vaccines for covid seem to be related to more modern cancer treatments.
     
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    Seriously, there has been nothing suggested by Trump and his delusional followers that has not been tested, excluding using industrial cleaner. Why you would think there is some conspiracy to do what, kill more people and for what reason ? Hiding potential cures for disease is not a goal for medical science. I just don’t get how otherwise responsible people can feel safe using medicines and modalities developed by medical science on one end, then as soon as the idiot Trump claims a farcical method can be used, suddenly medical science “ hides” it.

    You can’t have it both ways. Science is NOT what one or a few people would like to see happen. Science only takes place when thousands of dedicated peoples in many of the hundreds of institutions come to a common consensus.

    “Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine was hidden from the ignorant masses like myself?!”

    Seriously ? You can keep 3400 institutions who employ thousands…..quiet about Covid cures ? Getting a grip on reality is the first step to sanity.
     
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    Yes, I've mentioned that before and I even gave the time-line for mRNA and the drugs in use prior to STUPD-19.

    The truth is, little is known about the various cancers or their causes and we have been hampered by lack of technology.

    At first, there was only cancer. Then there was cancer and "women's cancer." And then they came to realize that cancers are all very different.

    A few cancers are known to be caused by virus, such as cervical cancer.

    Some cancers are genetic. A form of leukemia is. Also, lung cancer is prevalent in 10% of the population and that is genetic. A necropsy on an Egyptian mummy revealed it died of lung cancer, and a number of Arab, Persian, English and French astrologers (who also doubled as doctors) describe lung cancer in addition to mentioning breast cancer in both women and men.

    Note those astrologers were writing between the 9th and 14th Centuries, long before tobacco was discovered in the Americas.

    Other cancers are known to be coerced mutations either through radiation, like skin cancer (UV-A/B/C), other radiation-induced cancers, or through carcinogenic organic chemical compounds, like UDMH.

    The hope is mRNA can work like a couple of different types of virus do.

    There are different classes of virus, but one class invades a cell then uses mRNA to reprogram the cell's DNA to replicate itself.

    The goal would be to get the virus to invade cancerous cells and reprogram them to replicate into something harmless or just die.

    I think they will succeed, but it's still a few decades away.
     

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