Trump drops off Forbes list of America's richest people for the first time in 25 year

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  1. bx4

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    Most politicians leverage the fame that comes with their elected positions to earn money through things like books and speaking engagements. To put it bluntly, famous people can use their high profiles to get rich. And politicians become famous by being elected.
    Donny did it the other way around. He used his fortune to become famous and his fame as a platform to get elected.
    None of that makes him bad.

    What indicates that he is corrupt is that he used his elected position to direct federal taxpayer money into his own pocket. Any other federal employee would be committing a felony by doing what he did. There is no doubt that what he did was corrupt.

    The fact that it didn’t work out for him doesn’t change the fact that it was corrupt. It just means he failed at achieving a net enrichment.
     
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    he made tons off the taxpayers, he just lost more
     
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    Interesting how he loses money, yet the dems are still convinced all he cared about was money lol.

    Meanwhile, obama came out with millions.

    crickets.

    The man had it all, and gave much of it up just to try and make the nation better. And he outperformed any modern day president by a long shot.

    Par for the course.
     
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    Then, you were easily manipulated by the MSM into hating someone so irrationally.

    It wasnt just you, millions of Americans were.

    They would lie about something he said or did, blast it for days or weeks, then silently admit they were wrong. And you fell for it.
     
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    How?
     
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    No he did not lmao. I am not even astounded anymore that people believe this nonsense. Yall really fell for the fake news.
     
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    He held numerous political events at his properties and golfed every weekend at the expense of taxpayers.

    Then he cried about election fraud, raised $200 million to fight election fraud and spent very little of it fighting election fraud instead pocketing the for private airplanes. I seem to recall Arizona GOP begging private donors to fund the audit. Where was Trump with the $$$$?
     
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    Thats not "federal taxpayer money", thats donations.

    Except for the golf. I think Trump, and every other president (all of them) golfed at our expense should've payed for it themselves. Do you bitch about Biden's golf? Obamas?
     
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    It only fooled the fools.
    Which was the intended audience
     
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    False, he did not donate the Q3 or Q4 portion of 2020 — he was so close to not being a liar but he just couldn’t do it.
     
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    Looks like he needs to be charging actual rent then. What he is doing now is simply destroying his family name. He has squandered his inherited wealth because he desired a cult.

    His wealth today is about the same that it was when he falsely bragged his building was tallest again after 9/11 tower collapse. (Hint: it still wasn’t)

    Such a disgusting human being. Hopefully this is just the beginning of his losses.
     

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    don't hate Trump, I think Trump is not a good person, do you love Trump?
     
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    But Trump charged the secret service to stay at his own golf course, even charged them for the golf carts to follow him around

    if Biden bought a golf resort and did this, sure you would see why it was wrong
     
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    The issue was not trump going golfing — which he did almost 1/5 of his presidency which is unheard of — was at his own private resorts and not Camp David which is secured. His companies made money from rentals and lodging every time he went golfing which is not true of any other president.

    No one has an issue paying for presidential down time as long as it isn’t excessive or overly luxurious. We do have an issue with one funneling money into their own organization. So it was both excessive and profiteering.
     
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    Every time he visited one of his resorts, the taxpayer paid for rooms, meals, golf carts etc for secret service and WH staff and guests, at commercial rates.

    How do you not know this?
     
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    you know this is getting under Trump's skin so bad too, lol
     
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    To anger a democrat, tell them the truth...
     
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    when we learned the truth about Trump's taxes... we were not happy, that is for sure

    many truths about Trump were not happy about
     
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    You make timely points at times.
     
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    Please provide the citations you so desperately want to.
     
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    “Come on man” enough already. Every President goes golfing ( except biden, he plays with legos) and some resort gets charged. Your argument is beaten to death. Or… or maybe you should write peosi and have him impeached again. Yup I think that’s what you should do.
    I really do.
     
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    I wish I believed that, but I don't
     
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    He had the government donate what they would have paid him (a key distinction) to avoid receiving a clear line of income for tax purposes. Like a lot of very wealthy people, Trump almost certainly has his finances arranged so that his day-to-day expenses are covered by capital gains rather than income because that can massively reduce taxes. In simple terms, capital gains tax rates are a function of income so if you have (or can declare) low to zero income, you end up paying very low capital gains tax.
     
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    And if he had gone to other resorts, it wouldn’t have been corruption. It would have been an excessive amount of golf, but not corruption.

    Instead, he funnelled taxpayer dollars into his own pocket. That’s corruption.

    It would have been so easy for him to avoid any hint of corruption by saying that, while he was president, his businesses would not accept a single dollar from the federal government. But he didn’t. Because he is corrupt.
     
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