Congressman prescribes ivermectin

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  1. politicalcenter

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    Propaganda is not filling hospital beds covid is.
     
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    As you are led to believe but don’t ask nurses.
     
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    Too bad Biden can't. He seems only focused on one.
     
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    You are grossly misinformed (big surprise there...) if you think Ivermectin is not approved for use in humans.
     
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    Now grossly mistaking ideas on the right…big surprise. You didn’t read what the response was to did you ? Ivermectin for cattle.
    Maybe you forgot what the topic was about. Need help ? It’s not an approved drug for use in treating covid. There are a plethora of drugs that are approved for use of something’s and not others.
    “Sep 22, 2021 · Ivermectin is not FDA approved to treat COVID-“

    if it’s not approved for covid, it’s not approved for the topic we’re in.

    You got something more recent ?
    Are you suggesting we use ivermectin before being infected with covid or instead of being vaccinated ?
    Have no idea what the Rights point is……
     
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    Maybe you should look at what my response was to.
    Ivermectin for cattle…..
     
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    Depends on how much of the inaccurate ***** you believe
     
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    Seriously ?
     
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    the problem is the dosing - there are no guidelines so people are just taking a wild stab at how much and then wondering why they are literally pooping their pants
     
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    “Doesn’t cause harm”
    We know for a fact, that ivermectin can cause harm when not prescribed and used correctly. I still don’t get your point. Is this access to ivermectin before or after you’re diagnosed with covid, ot do you want it prescribed when ever someone thinks they might have a fever ?
     
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    We also know for a fact it is extremely effective in keeping people out of the hospital.
     
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    Oh! It is definitely approved for use in humans and we even have nice guidelines for dosage for those conditions it is used for. What is the dosage required though to treat Covid?
     
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    Not sure what you mean. It, like any prescription drug should be given under supervision. Now, you buy it for cattle then you decide without being tested for covid ? Not sure what your point is.
     
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    Small dosages. Something like 28mg.
     
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    Predictability.
     
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    Good point, I should be able to have my dr answer that. I'm not a dr so I don't have a strong opinion but this much I know:
    1. People refer to it as a "cattle treatment" for no other reason than to mock those that believe in its efficacy
    2. There is ample anecdotal evidence to support the notion that it could be effective in treating the symptoms of covid. IF the risk of side effects is low (again - I'm NOT a dr, I don't know about side effect risk) then why not prescribe it to people as a possible treatment.
    3. No one (that I've heard) is recommending people take it as a preventative measure. If aren't cv positive there is no reason to take it.

    Frankly, I can't believe that this is a political issue. Other countries are using invermectin as a treatment and they appear to be having success. It may not be a silver bullet but it just might keep some % of covid infections out of our hospitals. And thats a good thing.
     
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    no, people refer to it as cattle treatment when you buy it that way without a script. Just using the dosage written on the bottle for a cow ?
    Second, I hope everyone is smart enough not to do anything based upon anecdotal evidence ALONE. That’s scary.

    All drugs can be unsafe, even no script drugs if not taken properly. Maybe you are on a blood thinner and ivermectin reacts dangerously to that ? Is that the kind of stuff a non doctor should be recommending , or even a doctor without that patient ?
     
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    There are a bunch of trials out there. Go on line and find them. If you can signup for one that offers you ivermectin and you’re willing to sign your life away, go for it. No one is legally stopping you.
     
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    Thank you for your input, mr strawman. And you're more than a little disingenuous to say that people who refer to it as a cattle drug or, my favorite, horse paste aren't using that language to denigrate.
     
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    So f***king ironic that you would equate taking a medication that has been prescribed for decades and billions of people "signing your life away" while happily receiving a vaccine that has only been available for months.
     
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    Really, Trump is a paragon of intellectuality ?
     
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    Prescribed for what, Covid ? That’s what we’re talking about right ? Vaccines have had testing for covid. No track record ? Trials are a track record. They are real people who come down or not with covid..f The evidence is there, it works. Show us how 95% of the people given ivermectin are cured of covid …..
     
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    It’s fking ironic you’d even compare a preventative medication with a treatment med.
     
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    Anecdotes are NOT a science! Other countries are NOT currently using ivermectin. There are still some RCTs being conducted (random control tests) but bloody few of the as trial after trial has shown little to no effect

    https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/what-now-for-ivermectin

    You want to check with a doctor? Well this article is from the Royal Australian College of General Practitioners
    Oh! And this is what happened to people who self medicated

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2114907


     
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    Have you been on another planet for X (however old you are) years?
     
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