What does Critical Race Theory teach?

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  1. Zorro

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    The Parents, and in many States prohibit:
    • the laws prohibit anyone from making a student at school feel “discomfort, guilt, anguish or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race or sex.”
    • Texas law makes it illegal for teachers to “be required to engage in training, orientation, or therapy that presents any form of race or sex stereotyping or blame on the basis of race or sex.”
    • Oklahoma’s law bans diversity training “that presents any form of race or sex stereotyping or a bias on the basis of race or sex... .”
    • Iowa’s law says “the superintendent of each school district shall ensure that any curriculum or mandatory staff or student training does not teach, advocate, encourage, promote, or act upon specific stereotyping and scapegoating toward others on the basis of demographic group membership or identity.”
    • Most bills prohibit educators from teaching students that “an individual, by virtue of the individual’s race or sex, is inherently privileged, racist, sexist, or oppressive.”
    • Ohio would prohibit teachers from being required to “affirm a belief... in the multiplicity or fluidity of gender identities or like ideas, against the teacher’s sincerely held religious or philosophical convictions.”
    I find it sad that such laws are even necessary. It's like having to pass laws that these radical union teachers can't force children to jump off the roof. You'd think the basic decency and humanity of the teacher would be all that was necessary to ensure that no child would be subjected to that kind of abuse in the classroom.

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    Systemic racism is a made-up claim deployed when there's no evidence of actual racism.
     
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    The curriculum has in most states gone through extensive review by state officials, school districts, teacher committees, parents' organizations, parent representatives on state appointment committees, university faculties, and so on. Self-appointed types (like you) want to ignore the developed curriculum and substitute their judgment. The rest of us are stupid and should be listening to you. :roll: :roll: :roll:
     
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    Fake News. These Laws are being passed in our elected State Legislatures and signed into law by our Elected Governors. These are Legitimate exercises of authority.

    Radical union school teachers who would presume to violate the will of the Parents and the Elected State Legislatures would be attempting to exercise illegitimate authority. I don't suggest they do that.
     
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    The Big Lie.

    You're misrepresenting the Oklahoma law.

    Who in the hell wants to teach school with the sorts of unprincipled attacks we see coming from Trumpers these days? University STEM grads start teaching in Oklahoma for $31,606 a year to be called out as racists? Good luck.

    The Oklahoma law...

    Section 1.B.1 ... No teacher, administrator or other employee of a school district, charter school or virtual charter school shall require or make part of a course the following concepts:
    (c) an individual should be discriminated against or receive adverse treatment solely or partly because of his or her race or sex,​

    ... appears to make even discussing affirmative action illegal.

    This section...

    Section 1.B.1 ... No teacher, administrator or other employee of a school district, charter school or vi rtual charter school shall require or make part of a course the following concepts:
    (f) an individual, by virtue of his or her race or sex bears responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race or sex,​

    ... appears to make mention of reparations illegal. It's like erasing part of history.

    The law is about more than CRT.

    What are teachers supposed to do with textbooks that mention affirmative action and reparations? Are teachers supposed to stop students from accessing the internet because they might run see these topics mentioned?
     
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    I was talking about blowhard ideologues ignoring the extensive community input into curriculum development. You're talking about state laws.
    Name calling nonsense.
     
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    Fake News. I'm representing it perfectly.
    That's right. These radical union school teachers will either honor the Law, the Parents, and the Students by following the law or they will be subjected to the consequences for their violative behavior.
    That's correct. Violate that at your peril.

    You complain quite a bit about teacher pay, they aren't slaves, if they don't think the wages are acceptable, they are free to pursue other job opportunities. But, if they teach at these schools, they will be held accountable to the law.
     
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    The 3m people in the Lower Mainland live in 14,016 sq. mi. That's 214 per sq. mi. Texas has 29.2m people living in 268,596 sq.mi. That 108 people per square mile.

    You're firing blanks.
     
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    BC has less than 14 people per square mile. 108 and 214 are 7 times and 15 times, respectively.
     
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    Why put your responses to others in replies to me?
     
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    The law in Oklahoma is absurd.
     
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    Are you deliberately ignoring the math or are you incapable of figuring it out?
     
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    The Big Lie is that CRT is taught in schools.
     
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    You're deliberately ignoring the wording of the law that makes even mentioning these topics a violation of the law.
     
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    It's beautiful in it's majestic simplicity. And it's the law by the Will of the People of Oklahoma.
     
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    Fake News. The wording is just as the People of Oklahoma want it.
     
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    Went ahead and removed the nonsense and misinformation here. Here's a synopsis what critical theory teaches:

    Critical Theory (capitalized) refers specifically to a school of thought practiced by the Frankfurt School theoreticians Herbert Marcuse, Theodor Adorno, Walter Benjamin, Erich Fromm, and Max Horkheimer. Horkheimer described a theory as critical insofar as it seeks "to liberate human beings from the circumstances that enslave them."[2]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory

    In short, critical theory is a radical, anti-intellectual Marxist-derived ideology which markets a snake oil narrative of "persecution and victimization" to stupid or worthless individuals (similar to white supremacist narratives about "white genocide, white replacement" and so forth). Ideologies that intentionally promote victimization and oppression appeal to worthless and sociopathic individuals (as is documented in psychology) who want be portrayed as a victim, falsely or otherwise, for their own depraved gain.

    So unless you're a Marxist or Communist, there's no reason to support it or dishonestly conflate it with mere "factual analyses" of problems facing racial minorities. Are you a Communist?

    None of those facts support the nonsensical conclusions and vast conspiracy theories that critical theory draws from them.

    For example, a white supremacist would take the same "facts" - such as "lethal force being more likely to be used against blacks", and immediately assert the conclusion that this means that it's because "blacks are more violent" or something similar.

    Rubbish. The serious studies and analyses have nothing to do with critical theory. Critical theory just takes and bastardizes fact to promote a radical, Marxist narrative and nonsensical agenda which sells as snake oil to people who are too stupid, inferior intellectually, or morally deprived to come up with creative and constructive solutions to these problems beyond rioting, violence, terrorism, or other antisocial forms of acting out.

    Nonsense, you seem confused as to what "facts" are (which are nothing more than disjointed pieces of information that in a vaccum, mean nothing). Critical theory is just a set of moronic, antisocial, and anti-intellectual conclusions drawn from facts.

    You're probably one of those people who moronically equates the term "fact" with "truth" (when in reality facts are just information that truths, or conclusions are constructed from, whether the theory or ideology is critical theory or anything else)

    For example, it's a statistical fact that African Americans, on average have higher crime rates than White Americans. A white supremacist would take this fact and immediately conclude that this is because "blacks are inherently more violent" (while ignoring any truth or facts to the contrary - such as the fact that certain crimes rates among low-income or education white populations might be higher than among high-income or education black populations). Or they'll take a fact about a Jewish individual being a top executive of a single media corporation and claim this proves the "Jews control the media" conspiracy theory.

    So stop with the lies and propaganda already and wasting my time. Critical theory doesn't teach "facts about systematic racism" anymore than white supremacy teaches "facts about black crime" or "facts about Jews controlling the media".
     
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    So what you're saying is that "true" critical theory would say that disaffected individuals a la Brittany Cooper spouting rubbish like "white people need to be taken out" isn't actually representative of critical theory, and just an idiot being an idiot?
     
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    Hey if it helps purging critical theory from our society, then it might be for the greater good in the long run. Critical theory shouldn't be protected by the first Amendment, it should be outlawed in a similar way to laws surrounding "hate speech" and whatnot. I'd be more than fine with it being banned federally and punished in a similar fashion to how preaching "capitalism" in North Korea is probably dealt with.

    Maybe the blame should fall on the critical theory snake oil peddlers to begin with, since if they didn't exist, they wouldn't need to be dealt with.
     
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    Critical race theory doesn't teach anything. It is a falsehood. Like Flat Earth theory.

    Teaching means imparting knowledge. imparting anti-knowledges anti-teaching.
     
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    CRT is more of a series of assertions open to dispute than a coherent theory. Let advocates point out examples they can tie to racism.
    Hate speech is protected.
    Canada tends to agree with your position of more limited free speech.
     
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    "CRITICAL RACE THEORY IS JUST PERFORMANCE ART FOR UPSCALE WHITES": Condoleezza Rice has harsh words for CRT.

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/482339/

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    All right thinking people reject that.
    All right thinking people agree.
    Condi Brings The Truth
    Simple Truths not stated often enough
     
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    Sure. Black preschoolers are 3.6 times more likely to be suspended than their white peers.
    Black girls in particular are much more likely to be suspended compared to white girls, but it isn’t because they’re committing worse offenses.
    According to a report from the National Women’s Law Center, Black girls are 5.5 times more likely than white girls to be suspended.
    Native American girls are 3.3 times more likely to face suspension.
    Schools with a higher percentage of Black students receive less funding and less access to computers and the internet.
    Black Americans with college degrees are actually unemployed twice as much as other graduates.
    Black Americans with “white-sounding” names receive 50% more callbacks for their job applications.
    Black Americans with college degrees are twice as likely to be unemployed.
    Redlining in home buying.
    Banks lend more often to lower-income white people while refusing to lend to middle-income and even upper-income Black Americans.
    Black homebuyers are more likely to be denied a real estate agent appointment, while housing lenders are more likely to recommend subprime loans for Black Americans even if the homebuyer qualifies for prime loans.
    Black women are 3-4 times more likely than white women to die in pregnancy.
    Black children in the criminal justice system are 18 times more likely to be sentenced as adults compared to white kids.
    Statistically, Black Americans pay higher bails and receive harsher punishments than white people for the same crime.
    Black Americans are 20% more likely to be pulled over by police, more likely to be searched, and more likely to be victims of false criminal positives by facial recognition software.

    Would you like more?
     
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    It's a long way from these disparate claimed outcomes to anything systemic.
     
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    You misrepresent what she said. Pjmedia SAID it was about CRT but while Rice mentioned the name "Critical Race Theory", she went on to object to a list of her own imagined or universally rejected ways of relating to people, but she wasn't referring to any actual, specific tenet of CRT. And, the RW pjmedia video cut Rice off just before she made it clear that she was talking about her own personal list of objections. Here is the conversation that followed the video......

    Whoopi Goldberg: (04:08)
    But again, if you have a teacher, history is going to be taught.

    Sara Haines: (04:12)
    Absolutely, and it should be taught.

    Whoopi Goldberg: (04:14)
    And as we were talking earlier, when you go to Texas, you talk to Mexican kids who feel like crap because they’re being told they’re less than because of the Alamo. The whole idea of teaching history is so we don’t repeat it. So, I think that if you’re a good teacher, you don’t teach to make a white kid feel bad, you’re supposed to say, “Listen, you didn’t do any of this, but you should know what happened.” And make sure, along with Black kids and Native American kids and all the colors that be in school.

    Condoleezza Rice: (04:52)
    I have no problem with letting people know what happened.

    Whoopi Goldberg: (04:56)
    Yes.

    Condoleezza Rice: (04:56)
    But let’s remember history is complex right?

    Whoopi Goldberg: (04:59)
    It is.

    Condoleezza Rice: (05:00)
    Human beings aren’t angels now. And they weren’t angels in the past, and so how we teach about our history is also important.

    Whoopi Goldberg: (05:07)
    But there is no way to hide the fact that white people owned Black people. There’s no way to hide that-

    Condoleezza Rice: (05:13)
    [crosstalk 00:05:13] Of course not.

    Sunny Hostin: (05:13)
    [crosstalk 00:05:13] And I think that’s been issue that there’s been this sort of roll back of history. People want to hide history.

    Condoleezza Rice: (05:22)
    Oh, come now.

    Sunny Hostin: (05:22)
    Yes. That is true.

    Condoleezza Rice: (05:25)
    [crosstalk 00:05:25].

    Whoopi Goldberg: (05:25)
    45 seconds, guys.

    Sunny Hostin: (05:25)
    And what we are seeing is this, this rollback of history; parents don’t want children to hear about the real history. And when we teach children about the real history, I think that is when we will really have true racial reconciliation.

    Condoleezza Rice: (05:40)
    People are being taught the true history. But I just have to say one more thing; it goes back to how we teach the history.

    Whoopi Goldberg: (05:46)
    That’s what I’m saying.

    Condoleezza Rice: (05:47)
    We teach the good, and we teach the bad history. But what we don’t do is make seven and 10 year olds feel that they are somehow bad people because of the color of their skin. We’ve been through that, and we don’t need to do that again.

    Whoopi Goldberg: (06:02)
    Well, we don’t want anybody to feel that. That’s the idea.
     
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