You say Rittenhouse would've been found guilty if black...

...can you cite some cases where it went down that way? Specifically Im looking for cases where a dark skinned minority was physically attacked by someone, shot them to stop the attack, and then went to prison for shooting their attacker.

 

I say some will get lucky from both races, we have black OJ's as an example

 

I presume that means you believe OJ killed his wife (as most people do) since thats the only way someone having the police plant evidence against them would make them 'lucky'... and you also believe Rittenhouse murdered his assailants since you're making the comparison in this context, correct? If correct, I have two questions-
Why do think Rittenhouse committed murder?
What role do you think 'luck' played in his getting away with it?

 

I am saying sometimes the juries get it wrong for both races, it happens

and that goes for guilty as well as not guilty verdicts

 

I do think the jury would have been out a lot longer had the judge not been on the defense team.

 

With that video available, the DA would not have taken it to trial. He took it to trial because he was white, and used a gun to defend himself. It is as simple as that.
This is why a dual system of justice is such a bad thing. The person on trial becomes a victim.

 

I don't think it would've mattered. I still can't wrap my head around who goes and hits a guy wielding an assault rifle with their skateboard. It sucks people died, but it's also kind of a Darwin award. If there was an active shooter, the training is to get away from them unless you're police, fighting them is only if you're cornered as a last resort. One could argue over whether it's wise to go protect property with an assault rifle. But to a reasonable person, it really ought to be a deterrent to do anything stupid, unless, well, they are really stupid.

 

You can call any law enforcement agency in this country and ask for their stats on all that.
You can also go to any government website where those statistics are reported.
You can contact the ACLU and get information on their cases, their focus and statistics of who is in imprisoned wrongly.
You can also go to any prison in this country and get statistical data.
You can also use the Freedom of Information act to get just about anything that is considered "the public's right to know" stats.
You can call almost any public library and a librarian (they are well trained) can help you find just about any information you seek.
If you're feeling adventurous, you can go to any courthouse in this country and request records available to the public (there is a copying fee but it's not much if you really want to know).



I'm not telling you what to do. I'm suggesting that there are ways to get updated and statistically accurate information without asking others to do that research for you.

However, with all that said, you don't need that data. Scroll up on your screen and use the search bar here. Type in some random names of people shot by cops and take a gander at how that gets interpreted in different ways depending on the race of all the parties involved. It's not rocket science. It's more than clear how those chips fall every second of every day in this country.

 

I have looked. I didn't find much matching closely with Rittenhouse case. There's a lot of cases where self defense is claimed, but evidense suggests the claim is false. I havnt found any that are clearcut like the Rittenhouse shootings.

...perhaps you could provide one?

 

You mean like 4 days as opposed to the O.J. Jury 4 hours?

 

Andrew Coffee was acquitted on the same day as Rittenhouse. Self defense.

https://cbs12.com/news/local/man-ac...uties-in-raid-that-led-to-death-of-girlfriend

 

It's sad but true there will always be people in this world who have to see the world through the lens of victim mentality thinking that they are somehow fighting against racism but in reality what they are doing is creating and stirring it where it does not exist to create animosity and ill will amongst their fellow man they have become the very thing they rail against

 

We call those people the Democratic Party.

 

@modernpaladin, please. Look at all the cases where "a dark skinned minority" didn't even shoot anyone and STILL ended up dead.
I see what you are trying to do. But, there is no comparison.

 

Do you believe Kyle will become an outcast in the larger community the same way OJ became an outcast?
Or will people be more accepting of Kyle?

 

Excellent question that answers itself!

 

Thank you.

 

maybe and like OJ, if he does anything illegal in the future, he could receive a worse sentence, so he best keep his nose clean

I bet even Kyle doesn't go to protests with an AR-15 ever again

 

He'll be fine, and forgotten come the next politized "outrage"....should take a week at most, the 24/7 "news cycle" requires fresh meat, leftovers don't cut it.

 

I bet you if a blm mob wants to burn my house down in the name of black people I will be standing the way. Armed.

 

The ultimate cases of “victim mentality” are most of GOP supporters who claim the are a victim of leftist Deep State anytime an election or court case goes against them. Even in this case, where a young scared kid shows up and kills two people maims one without getting a scratch on him. They are portraying him as a victim and a hero.

Most of those protesting and fighting about racism have been on the right side of history throughout the past. I was around back in the good old days when cops were beating up people for daring to ride on the front of the bus or walking across a bridge or murdering people for daring to try get black people registered to vote. Imagine if a black guy showed up with an AR15 and shot one of those ignorant hateful crackers who were attacking them with ax handles. You think he would have been allowed to walk away by the police, then acquitted at a trial?

Now, I realize that what I just mentioned is a part of communist Deep State leftist plot and conspiracy. You guys have tagged that kind of speech CRT. You guys think it should be banned from public discourse and our children should be shielded from hearing and reading about. So when I read an ignorant screed like the one you just posted above calling BLM or liberals “seeing the world through the lens of victim hood” I really get a kick out of it coming from a member of the biggest crybaby victims in world history. See what I mean?

 

You're comparing two different situations. You cant just presume how people are going to react to 'black man defends himself' because you think you understand how they're reacting to 'cops shoot black man.'

Thus far, the ONLY case thats been provided in ths thread was of a black guy that shot two cops, killed one, in a raid on his house and he was found not guilty on the same day Rittenhouse was because the jury said it was legitimate self defense.

All the people claiming black people arent allowed to defend themselves with guns are not backing up their claims with any evidence even while claiming theres so much of it out there. Maybe you can change that...

 

Spot on post!

 

as is your right, but if you shoot them in the back as they are fleeing, it's a crime, we can't just do whatever we want

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/rittenhouse-acquitted.594369/page-43#post-1073083494

REMEMBER:

BERNARD GOETZ ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_New_York_City_Subway_shooting

YOU Want BLAME besides ?
Ponder. Consider. Meditate,
The RIGHT of an Person
To Defend Themselves.

BTW I opposed Goetz of any Guilty verdict.
He Defended Himself from a race related group
that approached him. The group initiated "it".
And Goetz was "packing".
No Crime!
No Foul! besides the group who initiated . . .

Yet Goetz served "time" !


Moi

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