Alcohol Detection Systems Will Now Be Mandatory In All New Cars To Prevent Drunk Driving

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  1. Libhater

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    Since you obviously have no idea as to how Marxism is directly related to government, then it will be my privilege to teach you.

    There are 2 specific instances or examples where Marxism is directly related as to being a form of government here in America. Inside the link also gives you another disastrous sign of Marxism inside our universities, although, it isn't directly related to our government, but still should give you an idea of just how current Marxism in America is detrimental and dangerous for America. I had all I could do to not call Marxism here as being Communism, but that day may not be far off, if it isn't already here.

    1. State Capitalism: State capitalism is the practice of federal governments taking ownership and management control of otherwise private business. The idea behind state capitalism is inherently socialistic, in spite of the word capitalism.

    2. Democratic Socialism: Bernie Sanders describes himself as a democratic socialistic that argues America would be better of if we raise taxes on high income earners and put more control in the hands of the 'FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'. Fidel Castro and Kim Jung-Un both described themselves as democratic socialists. Both presided as dictators.

    3. Marxism in the University

    https://www.summit.org/resources/articles/marxism-america-yes/
     
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  2. LangleyMan

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    You're the guy who said: "All those studies did the measurements when the vaccine effect was the strongest." You go first. :) :)
     
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    Or you can call it saving an innocent person's life. like everything, it is a matter of perspective.
     
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    so you support these Alcohol Detection Systems?
     
  5. LangleyMan

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    This should be good. I taught economics and history for more than three decades to adults and high school students.
    Government in this country existed before Marx was even born. The absolutely essential feature of Marxism is collective ownership of the means of production.

    From your religious cite (https://www.summit.org/resources/articles/marxism-america-yes)

    "In a nutshell, state capitalism is the practice of federal governments taking ownership and management control of otherwise private businesses. The idea behind state capitalism is inherently socialistic, in spite of the use of the word capitalism. At present, Russia, China, and other nations are committed to state capitalism, but so are many American leaders. Recently, for example, the U.S. federal government has made aggressive moves in the health-care, energy, and banking sectors of the economy."

    We don't have much collective production. Public schools are the largest government-run service. Arms production? Private. Medical care? Private exceptions like the VA and some university hospitals. Infrastructure. Mostly private.
    Do you really think Marxists are prominent in STEM faculties? Economics and business aren't pushing Marxism.
    Marxism is not relevant in America.
     
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    I don't even want a car with all the new stuff in it, just more to break down
     
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    The situation in British Columbia, Canada:

    Past week cases (Nov. 18-24) – Total 2,612
    • Not vaccinated: 1,461 (55.9%)
    • Partially vaccinated: 87 (3.3%)
    • Fully vaccinated: 1,064 (40.7%)
    Past two weeks cases hospitalized (Nov. 11-24) – Total 294
    • Not vaccinated: 182 (61.9%)
    • Partially vaccinated: 19 (6.5%)
    • Fully vaccinated: 93 (31.6%)
    Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Nov. 18-24)
    • Not vaccinated: 195.9
    • Partially vaccinated: 39.0
    • Fully vaccinated: 23.9
    Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Nov. 11-24)
    • Not vaccinated: 38.3
    • Partially vaccinated: 11.9
    • Fully vaccinated: 2.0
    https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0075-002273

    The vaccines are safe and effective. You may have better immunity if you catch covid (maybe not, too), but most of us prefer not getting it. We'll see how a third dose impacts immunity from a vaccine.
     
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    Its quite obvious that you cannot accept the fact that Marxism's stranglehold on the government currently led by leftists and socialists is and has been having a serious and detrimental affect on the American people as it was perfectly outlined in the link I provided. You can dance around the facts all you want, but you can't convince anyone that Marxism isn't taking over the democrat party, and is also being taught nationwide in our public schools via the CRT route et al.
     
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  9. LangleyMan

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    The idea Marxists have a "stranglehold on the government" is completely unrelated to reality.
    Hohhhh-Kayyyyy... :roll: :roll:
     
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    Ok ta, I read the op but didn't realise there was an article until I clicked on the green box.
     
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    Leftist nanny and cradle to grave world, some folks just never grow up ;)
     
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    Maybe it make more sense to abolish alcohol instead of treated all adults like drunks..
     
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    Same here and California..
     
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    Hand sanitizer, screenwash, mouthwash etc.. can and do contain alcohol. Just think the number of none drinkers wondering why their nanny state car won't move!
     
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    I always put "LINK:" right before any link I post due to this forum not highlighting links in a way that others can see them easy.
     
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    No vaccine produces 100% immunity. All it does is give your immune system a better chance at combating a virus.

    Same goes for you. Even Mother Nature is not 100% proof against any virus. Indeed virus's are a part of Mother Nature. And Mother Nature has a tendency to kick her own ass on occasion.

    Whether the vaccine is better or a natural immune system is better is entirely dependent on the person infected. In the end there is no way to tell for every single individual which is better and which is worse. Because it's so varied. So really you are both just arguing against yourselves, not each other. IE: This is one of those cases where you are both right and wrong together.

    In any case I would like to thank you both for derailing this thread and turning what was a thread where everyone on both sides was actually agreeing on something into a thread of division. (and if it wasn't clear enough for you...that "thank you" was sarcasm.)
     
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    Has there been a forum rule that states that COVID is related to every topic under the sun?

    Otherwise, I can't imagine how vaccines are related to mandatory breathalyzers in cars.
     
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    Anti-vaxxers and those opposed to covid restrictions see it as government overreach.
     
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    Oh, please--your thread was collapsing on itself because there was little more to discuss.
     
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    Hm. Nobody forced me to get a vaccine. The cruise company is requiring us to be vaccinated when we sail in January. That's not government, and I have no issue with it whatsoever. I wish the airlines would require vaccinations as well.
     
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    Yes, if this was the Soviet Union pre-1988.

    Your Media did its job and told you everything that was in the Bill and wrote candid thought-provoking editorial opinions examining the pros and cons of the Bill and your network news frankly debated the pros and cons of the Bill.

    Oh, wait....I was dreaming. Never mind.

    Line-item veto. To refresh your memory, it was the Democrats who killed it.
     
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    SCOTUS declared it unconstitutional.

    If either party REALLY wanted it fixed, it would get fixed. All they have to do is make it illegal to have more than one topic of a bill.

    Do you know why they don't fix it? Because their corporate overlords won't allow it and the people with the power to vote them out won't do it.
     
  24. Mircea

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    Crocodile tears.

    If Republicans didn't vote for it, you'd vilify and crucify them for not supporting it.

    Correct.

    People on the Ketone Diet can also produce false positives, and there are pharmaceuticals that can produce the same results.

    There's no science to it.

    I made 134 DWI arrests with 131 convictions for DWI, one conviction for DUI, one conviction for Impaired Driving and one unfounded.

    As you probably guessed, that was before your government pulled a Mao/Pol Pot/Stalin/Lenin and told the States if they didn't change their laws they'd lose highway funding.

    Still, I got a DWI conviction on a BAC of 0.02%

    No kidding. She handed me a credit card, so I asked to step out of the vehicle and she face planted. Because she was mouthy (and I didn't her making false claims) and because she might actually have a serious medical condition, I called the meat wagon. She was combative with EMT personnel and in the ER -- which had video cameras -- she physically assaulted the ER staff and had a hissy fit and total meltdown.

    That was all the judge needed to see.

    Anyway, it is factually and scientifically false to say that someone with a BAC of 0.08% is impaired.

    The only scientific truth here is that someone has a BAC of 0.08%.

    Alcohol is a drug that affects everyone differently and even affects you differently. You can drink a six-pack and not be impaired and then a week later drink a six-pack and be impaired.

    There's a whole host of physical and psychological factors that affect impairment.

    If you are positive, upbeat, happy, care-free, the impairment is significantly less than if you are angry, worried, anxious or depressed.

    Why? Because both of those states of mind result in different chemicals being in your brain at different levels. The physical factors include the quantity and quality of sleep in the last 24 and last 72 hours, your diet, your overall physical condition and health and so on.

    I get that judges failed the people and let the Upper Class, Upper Middle Class and Middle Class off Scot-free and threw the book at the Lower Middle Class and Lower Class because they couldn't get a good attorney, but screwing everybody for the mistakes of a few is not good public policy.

    It spite of the federal government's illegal meddling, Ohio still runs on the old system.

    So, first in 10 OVI low-tier is a 3 day class. First in 10 high-tier is a 28-day or 6-week class.

    In Ohio, your best bet is to refuse the test, provided you are close or not drunk.

    If it's first in 10, it'll cost you $500 to $750 for an attorney, who will file a Notice of Appearance, Demand for Discovery, Request for Evidence and an Appeal to the Administrative Suspension so you'll get your license back right away, and then based on the body-cam, it'll get knocked down to reckless driving, but that assumes you can handle your liquor, because if you got that deer-in-the-headlights weeble-wobble look, you'll get convicted.
     
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    Because the Democrats threw a hissy fit. Reagan wanted the line-item veto and the snowflakes had a meltdown.

    No, that's wrong. It's because you don't have the guts to vote for someone other than a Republican or Democrat.
     

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