“Whites Steal African Resources!”

I'm interested. Did you appeal to the voice of your experience because you thought I would argue with it, or because you thought I wouldn't? You must realize that your experience is a collection of anecdotes observed and recorded through the lens of your own bias. This doesn't just apply to you. If digitally integrated society has anything to teach us about the human condition, it's that two people can view the exact same set of circumstances through different filters and come to completely different conclusions about the reality they both watched. Your experience is a voice that's in your head only. Why did you think it would speak on your behalf? Do I need to drag out a champion that has also experienced 30 years of teaching history so that his experience might leap forward to duel with yours? If I have years of teaching under my belt as well, must it be in history? Could, say, years of teaching electrical engineering, wield a heavier sword? Can I slay your argument dead as long as I claim to be an expert?

The claim I made was that post modernists believe it. Do you dispute that, because I'd be more than happy to quote from Bell or Crenshaw or Delgado to confirm that they do indeed believe that. Do we need to reach further back into history and appeal to Derrida or Foucault? Surely your 30 years of history teaching has broached that subject.

 

History is everything up to and including yesterday. You're not living in the real world if you believe conservative whites aren't, in general, more racist than progressives.

 

Against who, and in what way? Just trying to understand where you are coming from.

 

I don't hear voices. Do you?

My experience as a historian and economist involved a lot of research, year after year, to remain current.

Why do you think it wouldn't?

You seized on an anecdotal comment to someone who also talked about personal experience.

An electrical engineer versus a historian? The expertise is on the side of the historian.

What you actually wrote: "Post modern racism is based on equity. It whole heartedly accepts a racial supremist view that any and all unequal racial outcomes must be the result of a racial power differential that requires regulation."

You spoke of "post modern racism," not about postmodern views of racism.

P.S. It's "postmodern," not "post modern."

 

Let me speak to your experience please. I want to hear what it thinks.

And yet 2 economists, somehow, after both researching year after year, still are able to disagree. Strange.

The fallacy is called argumentum ab auctoritate. I don't care about your authority to make the argument. The truth of the argument should stand on its own.

I refuted your claim that your individual experience disagrees with my argument that everyone, at heart, is racist. The brain is structured to function as a pattern recognition machine. When input is received, the brain organizes it into a pattern, even when no pattern exists. This is racism.

On the subject of liberals treating minorities as babies, this is well founded psychology.

Just one bit of much evidence on the subject:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...n-they-speak-black-people-new-study-contends/

Liberals are more neurotic and compassionate. This makes them sensitive to danger in others, and their response is that of a protective mother.

Are we analyzing a system, (systemic racism) or feelings about what people might have been thinking 100 years ago?

Please enlighten me on the distinction between post-modern views of racism and post modern racism. This should be a hoot.

 

When someone professes the ability to uncover systemic racial bias, what do you think influences that ability? What prevents the mind reader from simply projecting their own bias? The entire argument for systemic racism, lingering oppression from 100 years ago, and racial superiority complexes stems from the professed ability to read other people's minds. Often with no other input than the color of the skin the mind is wrapped in.

Talk about racist.

https://www.vanderbilt.edu/diversity/unconscious-bias/

How on Earth is this not a racist comment?

You're not living in the real world if you believe conservative whites aren't, in general, more racist than progressives.

You've generalized people based on the color of their skin. That's racist.

 

Oh, please. They're discouraging voters and some will be discouraged and not vote.

Your anecdotal story notwithstanding, there is a long history of voter suppression in this country.

Not the point.

 

I like bits and pieces. I prefer when they don't use English, and not a fan of the throat singing raps (though I love throat singing generally) they insert here and there. The song posted is my favourite of theirs, but that's as much to do with the filmic flavour of it as the melody.

 

Yes, it did. It became illegal.

Unfortunately, it's now back with the new institutional discrimination against whites.

 

I'm also indigenous, FTR. We have something in common!

Meantime, some cultures do get along very well due to aligned values. It's about ensuring we only allow those compatible cultures to co-exist in one place, I guess.

 

My story is evidence that what you call 'voter discrimination' can take many forms - including compulsory vote.

Meantime, what suppression? What force has compelled this 'suppression'?

 

It may, it may not. What you're talking about is irrelevant, because it's personal, private opinion.

The racism that actually matters is INSTITUTIONAL.

 

well without colonization and European influence they would have never known any of the resources were valuable because to them they aren't. And they wouldn't have been able to make wealth out of it because a treadsman has no use for refined chromium or lead.

You make a good point knowledge is probably one of the most precious resources humanity has. To take it away is probably one of the worst things they can do to the continent.

 

1) People move for all sorts of reasons. And ALL of them are personal choice - just as is choosing to stay in a place where you don't like the limited facilities and services. IOW there are no 'targets', there is simple change. An airport is being built in my country, and it overlaps a working class migrant area. I have no doubt that you would call that discrimination, despite the fact that it's being built there because it's the only place it CAN be built. These kinds of changes impact all residents equally, not just those who fit your 'victim' demographic.

2) You seem to be 'whining' about racism yourself, so this makes no sense.

3) The point that your vote isn't mandatory needed proving?

4) So you agree that this new institutionalised discrimination against whites is disgusting and regressive?

5) ANYTHING enshrined in policy or law which gives favour to one race over others, is racism of the first water.

 

Against non-whites. They are the real White Supremacists.

 

I already answered this

No, I am not affected by it at all, as I said earlier.

Never asked you to prove such thing. Voting is a constitutional right.

I asked you to explain what you mean by it, but you didn't answer. I am white, but I am not feeling it, or seeing it.

Right, but you said it doesn't count, because people can just pack up and move to another State to escape such laws.

I asked "in what way" but you didn't answer.

 

I don't 'believe' it, I know it. I live it. Everyone non-white person I know who has their eyes open sees it.

I'm the receiving end, and I see it constantly. I rarely see it from conservatives, because they're too busy getting along with the practicalities to care one way or the other. They won't go out of their way to cut you slack because your skin is a different colour. That's true egalitarianism, and I'm sorry for you that you can't see it. Sorry for the America, too.

 

1) Irrelevant. It's LEGAL discrimination - something we fought hard against for decades.

2) There is no discrimination in changing locations of polling places, because such changes affect ALL residents, not just your preferred victim demographic/s. When all residents are equally impacted, regardless of colour or creed, there is no legal or institutional racism taking place.

 

Relevance?

It was a comment, not an argument.

I suppose it depends upon how one defines racism.

Relevance?

The WPost is behind a paywall.

Anyway, this all depends upon how one defines racism.

I'm looking at today, recognizing that today is often a recognizable descendent of the past.

I'm not a postmodernist and I don't subscribe to notions of postmodern racism.

 

Agree 100%.

BLM (https://blacklivesmatter.com/) are socialist ideologues. Their "defund the police" demand is toxic. People want more good cops and fewer bad cops.

 

The changes don't impact people equally.

 

You keep saying it while avoiding answering my question, so I'll have to assume you dont have an answer.

One more time: How are those "white progressives" discriminating against you?

 

Physical changes (whether an airport, a freeway, or polling place closures) affect ALL residents of the given area equally. They are happening to ALL residents, regardless of colour or creed.

 

A rather convoluted question. The ability to spot bias varies.

Intelligence, education, integrity.

Black people have had difficulty establishing title to real estate for a lot of reasons and as a result miss out on some government programs.

I think they're screwed up. Seems they may need to get replace some people.

You have no idea how absurd your position is.

 

Conservative whites may not "cut you slack" but they may also discriminate against you. Maybe you ran across some non-racist types.

Nice try. I've lived in the same household with black people. I've also spent a lot of time outside the United States--I added Canadian citizenship many years ago.