Biden Won’t Extend Student Loan Relief And Confirms Student Loan Payments Restart February 1

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  1. Curious Always

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    The government isn’t dad. The government should not force taxpayers to pay for other people’s poor choices.

    We can’t afford free college for everyone that wants to go to the most expensive schools. Stop spending my great grandchild’s money like that,
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump is not the thread topic.

    College loan repayment and Biden are.

    Do not divert the thread topic.
     
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    so why did you take us off topic?

    at least my post was on topic

    think how much student debt we could have paid off with all that debt Trump incurred?
     
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    Id argue we as a nation accrue a greater debt not allowing these loans to default.
    Im pretty sure research would back me up on this. I haven't really looked into it though.
     
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    Society...for some reason the rich only spend money between themselves. So if you wanna network with rich kids, its best to go to rich schools. IMO. Broke schools, most all the students dont really have time to experiment with friends.
    But that's neither here nor there.
     
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    1) How about "nothing really bad happened to me, but I'm too special and precious to do adulting - please pay my way".

    2) Subsistence farmers 'have it bad'? Wow .. and you think your position isn't driven by pure privilege and self-indulgence.

    3) We must 'judge' those who default. They did it deliberately, and with utter contempt for the impact of their selfish choices on others. If you are serious about fostering that kind of behaviour .. you're either revealing something about yourself you'd probably prefer to keep hidden, or you have literally NEVER thought any of this through.

    4) BS. Stump up to any large town with a fresh medical, nursing, or teaching license, and you'll have a job before sunset. You'll likely have several to choose from, in fact.
     
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    This is pure crap. A medical degree from just about any school will get you straight into a high paying job, just about anywhere.
     
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    No kidding.
     
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    Doesn't a medical degree require like 4 years of unpaid internship, with no moonlighting? Or was that just an episode of scrubs?
    I think thats where most the debt grows from stipulations like that.
     
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    Neither have you apparently since you disagree.
     
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    Internships are paid. Graduating doctors (after seven years of study plus paid internship) make $90k at a minimum. Take a job in a rural area and it'll likely be more due to demand - and include a housing allowance. Given that, student loan debts are a breeze.
     
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    Oh. You’ve upgraded to free Harvard style education for all.
     
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    It just may be pure crap. Its just my opinion, based on my personal experiance. Wasn't that what was asked? Who, or what sold me?
    If its pure crap, maybe you can sell why?

    Saying just get a medical degree, or an in demand job for the future does not cut it.
     
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    Exactly, and well said. People who spend hundreds of thousands on a degree in French literature are on their own.
     
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    If thats the debt the student carry's, it would not be free..the guaranteed loan does not cover the entire cost usually. Not only that, how is being able to default make something free? Defaulting is in no way cost free. And can actually lead to money being collected that otherwise would never have been.
     
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    1) I'm not working with opinion, I'm working with reality. And the reality is that networks don't apply for in-demand, licensed degrees. All you need is that license to practice.

    2) Of course it cuts it. If your parents aren't wealthy, you have no business doing anything BUT those kinds of degrees - or taking an actual trade apprenticeship - Electrician, Plumber, Fitter, etc. You have an obligation to your own future security (and to the tax payer), to equip yourself to earn your own keep. Deliberately choosing not to take such measures, is incredibly irresponsible and selfish. It means you don't care who is compromised, as long as you get to 'have fun and take it easy'.
     
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    Ur comical.
     
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    You think kids doing their best to escape poverty is 'comical'?

    Well that certainly backs up your apparent desire to enable irresponsibility.
     
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    Got to find some way to make up for pissing manchin off and not getting what he wanted.
     
  23. Curious Always

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    The poor are uneducated children, who must be coddled. What a sorry opinion of the poor. Treat adults like they are children.
     
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    There's plenty out there and I have cited to you in #113
     
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    It's worse than just that. There's a genuine shift into actual resentment of kids who think in terms of financial security - as though that stuff is some kind of unfair gift, bestowed upon the undeserving.

    What that tells us, is they don't want to see that self-determination happening. They would actually prefer to enable working class kids to keep making terrible choices (and thus ending up or staying in poverty), just to avoid confronting their own personal issues with responsibility.
     
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