Do you support mail voting?

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Do you support voting by mail?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Only if voter requests it.

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  1. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

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    What you don't understand is, done right, it's more secure and gets better voter participation than in person voting. AND, in the leisure of you home you can assemble your research and take your time making sure you make educated choices. It's really a much more civilized way of voting; and secure ... oh, I said that already.
     
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    The process of Mailing out the ballots, voting, verifying the veracity of the ballot and finally counting ballots make "introducing" ballots impossible. Every step is watched by bipartisan volunteer's, you just can't do what you suggest; no matter what the Babe Ruth of Bullshit (Donald Judas tRump) it trying to peddle.
     
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  3. jcarlilesiu

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    Fine. I'll support it when the democrats stop opposing every mechanism or process put in place to prevent fraud.

    I dont disagree with you, but right now the prices almost encourages fraud.
     
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    "The prices"??? Democrats don't oppose EVERY mechanism or process to prevent fraud. Democrat States are in charge of the most secure voting systems in the country.
     
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    Sure you can. The democrats simply use their political position to place operatives in specific positions in different large democrat districts.

    One person whose legitimate job it is to wheel out the ballots to the counters and one counter. The person wheeling in the legitimate ballots simply mixes in boxes of his fraudulent ballots with the boxes of legitimate ones to his co conspirator the counter who then feeds the fraudulent ballots through the machine which are then indistinguishable from the legitimate ones.
     
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    And you’d need to do this in what? 2 dozen districts? That’s 50 hardcore democrat operatives.

    Then all they have to do is stonewall a signature verification audit successfully. Which they’ve done.

    Would it be difficult to pull off? Sure. Would it be impossible for an organization with the democrat party’s resources? Absolutely not.
     
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    Time will tell if on a large scale can actually be as secure as physically going in and declaring who you are as opposed to declaring who you are and then mailing it in.

    Meaning that perhaps in future elections people find ways to hack the system.

    Assemble and do your research before you vote. Get your ass off the couch and out of your cave and go f****** vote. And if that's too much for you that you just don't want to do that then I don't want your vote
     
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    That's not how it works, dude. No one will be asking if you want my vote or not.
     
  9. WillReadmore

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    Vote by mail IS a mechanism for reducing fraud.

    Let's remember that we already have several states that have used vote by mail for a number of years now, including multiple presidential elections.

    If anyone is concerned about fraud, they can check it out!
     
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    This is absolutely absurd.

    Stonewalling signature verification is possible with polling places today.

    Vote by mail doesn't allow for that kind of fraud.

    Maybe you just don't know how it works.
     
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    There are states where that just isn't true.

    And, the whole concept of the state deciding whether your "reason" is good enough is BS to start with.

    Beyond that, the absentee ballot systems of many state are not as secure as is vote by mail in states where that's the only way one votes.
     
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    They don't oppose those mechanisms.
     
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    There's no truth in your 1st statement.
     
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    That way states can eliminate polling places, move polling places, have volunteers handling ballots and ignorant of voting law, allow for long lines at polling places (increasing the cost of voting for hourly workers, preventing those unable to stand for long periods, etc.), deny people from offering water to people standing in line for hours, controlling hours of operation (again, making it COST hourly workers their pay in order to vote), providing no transportation from job sites to polling places, using ancient and easily hacked voting machines, providing NO paper trail, allowing partisan disinformation campaigns on polling place hours and locations, etc., etc., etc.

    Polling places ARE the very HEART of election fraud.

    And, I'm assuming THAT is why you want it to stay that way.

    After all, there is NO other justification AT ALL.
     
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    It means that I don't care if, because of the current system of voting means you are too lazy tumor uneducated to participate.

    Oh well. Nothing of value would have been lost.
     
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    This is absolutely ridiculous from top to bottom, demonstrating that you have NO IDEA how it actually works.

    There is no "box of ballots" being passed around. It's far more automated than that.

    Plus, those verifying signatures have no way of seeing a ballot. A ballot gets fed in inside it's envelope. The verifiers sees nothing but a screen that shows the signature on the envelope and the signature of the person whose ballot it is from the registration database. That is all they see. Then the "match" or "doesn't match" button gets pushed.

    I can see on the internet whether my ballot was accepted as signed. If not, I get a notification of how to fix that problem, but that requires in-person contact plus ID.

    My ballot was printed with a unique ID for me. For someone else to use my ballot they would have to sign my name as I do!! If I don't get my ballot by the time announced, I can report it as missing - thus that ballot will be rejected if someone tries to use it. And, I'll get a new ballot printed specifically for me. Plus, if someone plays with the mail, they are up for federal mail tampering charges - not the ticky tacky penalties we see for election fraud.
     
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    ~ Even more serious is ballot harvesting . Should be a felony in all 50 states.

    ~ That's not good ...
     
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    What stops the democrats from assigning a “volunteer” to a counting or a distribution position?
     
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    You don’t know the argument.

    The democrats introduced fraudulent ballots into the count AFTER the legitimate ones were separated from their envelopes. Your ballot isn’t barcoded, your ENVELOPE is. Which means once a ballot is separated from its envelope, it is IMPOSSIBLE to distinguish a legitimate ballot from a fraudulent one.
     
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    Colorado has proven, over many years, has proven Mail-in voting is more secure and more inclusive than physical poling.

    Mail-in ballots are physical records, a paper trail that backs up the veracity of an election.

    Voting in the comfort of your home precludes eliminated poling places, long lines, missing work, bad weather and a feeling of being rushed because of the above.

    And it's more conducive to making educated choices.
     
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    The better question is what can a Democrat do when they are working WITH a Republican counterpart?
     
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    Rules, laws, election commissions that have both parties in the commission.

    So, you asking that question is an indication that you did make it up and it's not true.

    Does that mean you also think THE BIG LIE is real? Which would be ridiculous to believe.
     
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    So, you fully support the fraud that polling places embody?

    Really???

    Can you explain why you think that fraud is OK?
     
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    True. The whole notion of polling places needs to be eliminated, as it is the source of numerous types of fraud, especially (but not exclusively) by those in office with the power to change election outcomes with that fraud.
     
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    You're making a claim without ANY cite.

    So, CITE it!

    Beyond that, your claim is easily rectified, as there is no reason for human contact after signature verification.
     

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