Negotiate Peace With Russia to Prevent War Over Ukraine

You're not right. Today, the likelihood of a real NUCLEAR war is stronger than ever. I can confidently say that the possibility of war today is much higher than during the Caribbean crisis.
During the Caribbean crisis, war was avoided because the United States took the USSR seriously and understood that if you continue to conflict in the political field, this will 100% lead to a nuclear war.
Today, American and European politicians have convinced themselves that Russia is bluffing. And they think that Russia will retreat. But I know for sure that there will be no retreat. There will be a severe escalation of the conflict, which is very likely to escalate into a nuclear war.

 

That's why I say - nuclear war is inevitable. And may the strongest win.
As Putin said - "We will go to heaven, but the enemies will simply die"

 

LOL....carski boy....not a case of not handling it....I'm sure Zelensky has Jewish heritage....you should look at your Kremlin rodent also and his inner circle....I'm sure if one dug into Putinkas background you'd probably find some Jewish background also....2 can play this game carski.

It's amusing to see you blow a gasket regularly when your Kremlin mancrush gets pi$$Ed on....)

 

Now that you mention it....good chance Bill did....maybe his nick was that "fu2" or something like that....from what I can vaguely recall?

 

So you think Putler is going to get you and millions of others killed in a NUCLEAR war over Ukraine? You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how misguided it may be.

Obviously we do take Russia seriously enough to have talks and tell Putler and other members of his regime that further aggression in Ukraine will be met with heavy consequences.

Incidentally, I've read that Finland and Sweden are warming up to the idea of joining NATO in response to Putler's raging desire to be "taken seriously." Seems he has been threatening them as well.

 

Yes...I think Putler did threaten them....he must think they are "Russians" also.....I think Helsinki was once called Helsinki-ov?.....and Stockholm was Stockholm-ski?

 

No doubt he would like for them to be known as Vostochniy Putingrad and Zapadniy Putingrad.

 

That's OK. We have enough nukes to erase Russia.

Once Russia is erased, historians can also dispel the myth that there ever was a Russia.

 

That is incorrect. We have enough nukes deployed to destroy Russia or China, but not both at once.

Perhaps the previous treaty, negotiated by W in the early 2000s, will be sufficient. That allowed us 2200 deployed warheads and no constraints on the number of delivery vehicles.

 

I followed until the final thought - Don't recall Putin Threatening Finland/Sweden ...

 

You previously stated that we have enough nukes to destoy the world .. Is China no longer part of the world ?

In any case .. 1000 nukes is plenty to annihillate russia -- the other 1000 for China. Radioactive dead zones .. as per your previous claim.

 

If we discuss only real facts, then we can most likely assume, based on the statements of Mr. Lavrov and Mr. Ryabkov, that Russia's ultimatum was a kind of political trap for imbeciles and arrogant Western politicians.
Judge for yourself - Russia puts an ultimatum to the US (I will not talk about the EU, it is assumed, because in the Western world everything is controlled by the US. They decide what to do ).
The Russians obviously understood that the US would not agree to accept Russia's demands. But they specifically set certain conditions. And gave the opportunity to speak out opponents. What I mean.
For instance. Russia demanded that certain countries not be included in NATO - the US and NATO refused to give guarantees to these requirements. US politicians have stated that it is the sovereign right of any country to join any organization. Stated? Stated.
Now, Russia can respond in the same manner and refer to the words of American politicians.
When Russia sets up its missiles in Cuba and the US starts to resent this, then the Russians can simply repeat words of American politicians about the "sovereign right of countries."
The fact that the Russians will come to South America is an obvious fact.
I don’t know if there is an agreement with Cuba, I think there is, but Venezuelan President Maduro will gladly support the deployment of Russian military bases in Venezuela. As well as in Nicaragua, they will be happy to meet Russian bases.
You look at what is happening in South America - they oppose the United States. Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, Bolivia... Chile recently held elections and won a leftist and anti-Americanist. Supported, by the way, by all of the above. Look at Mexico. Andres Manuel López Obrador is now leading the US political opponents.
In Colombia, which was an outpost of American interests in this region, interesting events are taking place today. In Colombia, judging by the polls, candidate Gustavo Pedro, who is inconvenient for the United States, is leading by a noticeable margin. Former M19 partisan who became an official politician. And today he is the main contender for the main political post in the country. This seriously scares American politicians and we hear calls from congressmen that Biden interfere in the elections in Colombia. I emphasize that they demand that Biden interfere in elections in a sovereign country. Which, by the way, in other cases require that no one else interfere in the elections in a sovereign country.
That is, a key country in South America may very soon get out of their control.
In general, you roughly understand what is happening and will happen next.
As Putin said bluntly, Russia will do in its own interests the same thing that the United States does in its own interests.

 

Putler has no business trying to limit who can join NATO, not that Ukraine is about to join anyway. Putler has helped see to that by fomenting and exacerbating the situation in the east after stealing Crimea.

As for hypothetical deployments of Russian missiles in Latin America, we'll see. I can tell you that it would not be in Russia's interests to pull that kind of a stunt. It may be in Putler's interests, but not Russia's. You need to learn the difference.

 

China being damaged by the fallout from Russia's destruction is not the same as China being destroyed by direct attack.

So you agree with my position that we should step back to the previous treaty that was negotiated by W in the early 2000s?

 

1000 nukes falling on China is a direct attack.

 

Intelligence says Putler is preparing a false flag in Ukraine to justify invasion:

First on CNN: US intelligence indicates Russia preparing operation to justify invasion of Ukraine

Washington (CNN)The US has information that indicates Russia has prepositioned a group of operatives to conduct a false-flag operation in eastern Ukraine, a US official told CNN on Friday, in an attempt to create a pretext for an invasion.

The official said the US has evidence that the operatives are trained in urban warfare and in using explosives to carry out acts of sabotage against Russia's own proxy forces.

The allegation echoes a statement released by Ukraine's Ministry of Defense on Friday, which said that Russian special services are preparing provocations against Russian forces in an attempt to frame Ukraine. National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan hinted at the intelligence during a briefing with reporters on Thursday.

... https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/14/politics/us-intelligence-russia-false-flag/index.html​

 

Yes.

However, 1000 nukes falling on Russia is not a direct attack on China.

 

I don't know Maduro or what he is. What I do know is that he had the backing of the Venezuelan people - probably because his opponent was backed by Washington.

That would be a turn off for any sovereign nation in the free world. And when I say the free world, I don't mean it in the Orwellian sense. I mean any nation that is not under Washington's control.

 

Maduro is a dictator. He has no such backing.

 

You don't know that. You believe that based on... what?

 

No surprise....current negotiations in Geneva utterly failed....DPR "Neverussia" project is an epic disaster(Putler knows this), so Kremlin rodent is looking for excuses....any excuses.

 

Said 1000 nukes falling on China .. is enough to destroy China. So no point in building more.

 

Russia doesn't commit false flag attacks. False flags and assassinations is Ukraine's forte'. They were caught trying to instigate one a few years back in Crimea - not to mention in Mariopol during the war. So I'm not pulling these things out of the air.

Now could the US official the report's coming from be our top official Blinken, the same one who said Russia attacked Georgia when EU investigators proved otherwise? And who also said Russia did not comply with the Minsk II agreement when Russia is not part of the agreement?

The Minsk II agreement was between the junta in Kiev and the Presidents of the Donbas Republics. But then again lying and deceiving the American public has been Washington's forte' - or at least since the Clinton administration and his war with Serbia.



I'm singing now a wondrous song

To tell the world that right is wrong​

and what you thought was naught before

was just a lie that you had bought ​

from us. - Jeannette

 

"a US official told CNN" = Fake News

 

Destroying China does not destroy Russia.

It's not a matter of building them. They are built. (Unless we want to build larger ones, which we do.)

It's a matter of deploying them. And there is a point in deploying more. We want to be able to destroy both China and Russia, not just one or the other.