Careful! They are coming for your freedom and next your life!

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Darthcervantes, Jan 11, 2022.

  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    I suppose the observation was lost on you. "taking care of yourself" translates into demanding that everything be given to your generation. Why? absent moms and dads were guilted into it by their helicopter babies because as parents, they were never there to support their kids, so, here's money, here's anything you want in a store, here's free stuff. Just pout long enough and cars showed up in driveways, etc. It is how parents seemed to want to overcome their shortcomings from choosing work over parenting.
     
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    Marxist regimes aren't swept away by votes.
     
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    They will come November!
     
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    Then their not Marxist regimes.
     
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    you are generally correct, as any slightly left leaning government such as aristide in haiti or allende in chile (and dozens of others) are usually overthrown by us led coups. but i was thinking of an actual marxist, danial ortega in nicaragua who was defeated in an election in 1990 or so and left power peacefully. ortega was reelected in 2007 and the nicaraguans seem happy with the situation.
     
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    Which is bad, right? That the danger with direct democracy is that 50.1% will enslave the other 49.9%. We're not supposed to have direct democracy.

    Can you imagine if you could vote on everything over the Internet. Click Y gets you free ****. N is against funding free ****. I don't doubt you'd end up with 50.01% low information voters hitting that Y like a hamster that gets pellets in an experiment if it hits a button? That would be their full time job. And it would create an impoverished totalitarian Hellscape.
     
  7. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll never understand people that vote for their own demise. Please forgive them Lord for they know not what they do.
     
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    From what I understand from the European press (of course I don't KNOW), it is this group which was courted by Bush Jr and by Trump, and who can be counted on to support a hard right political position. IN GENERAL.
    I would be happy to see some proven denial of this.
    They also declare themselves to be Christians. I agree that they often behave more like "before Christ".
    Maybe like Fatback they don't know the difference between the OT and the NT and what that difference indicates.
     
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    I am still waiting for an answer to this question too.
    I don't see any evidence of any "dismantling" but I may be missing something so here is the opportunity to point some out and assign blame.
    Where has the dismantling of family, community, security orchestrated by the left happened?
     
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    May I add to this discussion my observation that there has been one country specifically in which a modified form of Socialism has worked fairly well for many years: Germany. After WWII, Germany began operating within the sphere described loosely as the "three-legged stool", and it has provided stability as the name implies, because government, corporate ownership, and labor worked in an atmosphere of compromise seldom seen in other countries.

    'Social pressures' have weighed heavily on Germany's ability to maintain this delicate equilibrium -- especially after the Merkel government adopted an 'open-door' immigration policy in 2015, but German government is still viable, although now considerably more Left-wing after the recent elections there.

    It will be interesting to see how the EU will engage with the nascent 'Neo-Capitalist' economy of the Russian Federation, especially with regard to energy! Germany has forsworn further development or use of nuclear power plants, and they detest further any burning of coal. Moreover, although, in theory, Germans like the idea of wind-turbines for electrical power, many of them bitterly oppose construction of these 'wind-farms' anywhere in 'their-backyards' (the 'NIMBY' dilemma). And, as we see everywhere, as 'energy' goes, so goes the fate of entire nations!

    I know I've veered off-topic, but one central fact remains -- as the old saying goes, 'there's no such thing as a free lunch'. Social welfare programs must eventually be paid for by SOMEBODY....
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i know right??? why did soo many people vote for Fascist Bigot Trump???

    Ill never understand
     
  12. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it worked so well they need America to fight their battles? We might as well be wiping there arses for them too
     
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    First off, Trump is no fascist or bigot. Second, if you voted for biden then you are guilty of not just voting for your own demise, but voting for the demise of America as a nation. Tell me one thing, action of biden's or from his administration that hasn't been a total disaster for America and for Americans in general? I'll give you a gold star if you can even point to one such positive action by biden that has been beneficial to America or Americans. Wait, it won't be a gold star I'll give, for I'm saving all my gold since its my great investment against biden's roaring inflation and the devaluing of the dollar. I'll give you a brand new hat with the hammer and sickle pic on it so you can proudly wear it. How's that? Must be the Christian in me that makes me so thoughtful and giving to those less fortunate.
     
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    We, the "Allies", dictated the terms by which Germany was run after it was defeated in 1945... and we Americans have bases and military personnel stationed in Germany to this day.

    If we don't like the 'deal' we can always pack up and move the whole damn thing from Germany to Poland (the Poles would LOVE to have the money). Or, of course, we could finally bring World War II to a complete close ( :roll: ) and bring our people and all our 'stuff' back home!
     
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    Well said!
     
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    Uhhh, they screwed the pooch and finally some sensible folks are speaking up, now that their barn is collapsing. They should have spoken up sooner while they had an opportunity to reign in the Left's illegitimate excesses.

    Time for another rant by a liberal who's furious at liberal COVID policies

    A Twitter thread from Elisabeth Stineberg has gone viral. Remember the "Parents are Terrorist" crap? “COVID moms” will be the constituency that, quite deservedly, knifes the Dems this fall at the ballot box. The Children of COVID, abandoned by the Left wing politicians so that Union School Teachers could draw checks and vacation in Aruba, are test down in IQ by two standard deviations? And the IQ deficit may be lifelong? My goodness, I hope not, but, hell hath no fury like a mom whose children have been harmed.

    Elisabeth delivers a blistering. Terry McAuliffe never saw it coming.

    "Stineberg’s deserves full exposure, as she makes a point that Schmitt also made in her Atlantic piece. It’s not just the madness of protracted school closures unjustified by the science that’s driven her to despair. It’s the demagoguery coming at her from her own allies on the left for challenging the orthodoxy that it’s dangerous to have kids back in class. I remember thinking when Trump called for opening schools in the fall of 2020 that Democrats were destined to oppose him, not because he was wrong on the science but because partisan polarization impelled them towards doing the opposite of whatever he wanted to do. Dems have never quite shaken that illogic on schools and COVID, nor have they shaken the tribal undertones of their position. Ask Stineberg. She’ll tell you."

    Buck the mind-hive and they promptly expel you from the tribe, but, the price of expelling the heterodox is a decline in numbers and appeal, which is why some on the Left are so frantically trying to gain illicit control over our election systems that are about to vomit them from their offices as our "representatives" when clearly they do not represent us, they hate us. They see us and the "smell Walmart".

    "How many “COVID moms” are out there? A lot. A lot:

    Nate Silver:
    https://suffolk.edu/-/media/suffolk/documents/academics/research-at-suffolk/suprc/polls/national/2022/01_10_2022_complete_marginals.pdf

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    Why is this a surprise?
    Because they don't listen.

    Why don't they listen?
    Because they don't care what we think.

    If they don't care what we think should they represent us?
    No.
    Dem Chickens...
    Are comig home to roost!
     
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    As a relative amateur when it comes to US politics, can you please give examples of what Biden has done to bring total disaster to the country? "In general"?
    Most of what he proposes seems to be blocked or deeply amended by the Senate and no one can blame a national leader for a pandemic. Only the way the administration deals with it.
     
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    Darthcervantes said:
    it worked so well they need America to fight their battles? We might as well be wiping there arses for them too

    I don't remember the USA being much involved with the Reunification of Germany and the money and politics and huge practical issues it involved.
    Perhaps you could show us the "wiping of arses" involved in those very difficult German years.
     
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    Since I asked the question first, of, tell me what thing or action biden has done that hasn't been a total disaster, I would expect someone/anyone to give me at least one example of something positive or productive coming from his first year as potus. Isn't biden's annual state of the union coming up soon this month? So, perhaps to save yourself some embarrassment in trying to find one positive thing of his 1st year, you could always wait to hear his SOTU speech by letting biden tell us himself. But, if you got something....go right ahead and tell us.
     
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    The U. S., under President Reagan, contributed substantially to the circumstances that led to the dismantling and eventual implosion of the entire Soviet Union, rather than direct interference in the politics or economies of either 'West' Germany (Bundesrepublik) or 'East' Germany (GDR), per se. Reunification was a very expensive undertaking for those in the former 'West' Germany because so much of the total infrastructure in the GDR had been left in a comparatively primitive state since the end of WWII.

    Added to the enormous cost of enlarging, expanding, and maintaining roadways through the 'unified' Germany today is the consideration that very nearly ALL the east-west roadway traffic in Europe passes through it, and although the entire EU benefits from this enhanced mobility, it is Germany that is responsible for the improvements and maintenance.
     
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    In all honesty that isn't an answer. And you haven't actually answered your own question about HAS been a disaster. So maybe you could let me know what HAS been a disaster...and why th Republican Senate passed it, given that it IS a disaster. To answer "that has he done that is a disaster" cannot be answered by "what hasn't he done th at isn't a disaster" with no examples.
    I have already told you I am not fully in touch with US politics so please ease off the aggression. I am ASKING for information, not sarcasm.
     
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    Did the USA contribute to the costs of reunification or only laid down the road to it and left Germany to pay for it?
     
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    I have to smile when the world's greatest supporter of private enterprise calls its POTUS a "Marxist".
    Has Biden ever suggested a state takeover of the means of production?
     
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    I think it was because nobody on earth trusted Hilary Clinton.
     
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    No, my German friends assure me that Germans, primarily the 'rich' ones in 'West' Germany, were the ones who paid for reunification.
     

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