N.Y. Attorney General Letitia James alleges ‘significant evidence’ of Trump Org fraud

There was legal precedent set with them that will be applied to all by the courts. Good luck with that and please don't be too surprised.

 

Pal, I'm an American who managed to survive the T**** regime... Nothing surprises me all that much anymore...

Well, Djokovic getting the absolute boot sort of did, but that wasn't here...

 

New York Attorney General Letitia James has alleged that her office has uncovered "significant" evidence "indicating that the Trump Organization used fraudulent or misleading asset valuations to obtain a host of economic benefits, including loans, insurance coverage, and tax deductions." Former Trump attorney Michael Cohen discusses Trump's business practices with CNN's Alisyn Camerota.​

Cohen is grinning ear to ear, as you might well imagine.

 

I could say the exact same things about the right, so where does that leave us? The Republican Party is dead. It is now the Party of Trump. No honor, no dignity, no message other than "the left is bad and wants to destroy America" which even they know is hyperbole. And since they know they are a minority among voters, and can't win on message or merit, they cheat by finding clever ways to circumvent election wins by Democrats in states whose majority of legislators are GOP. They are essentially setting themselves up as election "judges" in several key swing states:

"For more than a year now, with tacit and explicit support from their party’s national leaders, state Republican operatives have been building an apparatus of election theft. Elected officials in Arizona, Texas, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, and other states have studied Donald Trump’s crusade to overturn the 2020 election. They have noted the points of failure and have taken concrete steps to avoid failure next time. Some of them have rewritten statutes to seize partisan control of decisions about which ballots to count and which to discard, which results to certify and which to reject. They are driving out or stripping power from election officials who refused to go along with the plot last November, aiming to replace them with exponents of the Big Lie. They are fine-tuning a legal argument that purports to allow state legislators to override the choice of the voters.

By way of foundation for all the rest, Trump and his party have convinced a dauntingly large number of Americans that the essential workings of democracy are corrupt, that made-up claims of fraud are true, that only cheating can thwart their victory at the polls, that tyranny has usurped their government, and that violence is a legitimate response."

Another name for minority rule: Tyranny.

 

Yes they do. You gather all the info you can.

For instance, using that logic, Trumpers would have shown evidence of democrat election fraud instead of crying for more audits.

 

I just watched that video.... he's a cat on a hot tin roof there.... I think when they finally indict T**** on anything, Cohen's head might literally melt....

I'm just spitballing, but I'm saying he doesn't like his former boss all that much anymore...

 

What number bombshell is this one? 12,877,343

Hate to be the bearer of bad news here but lenders do their own appraisals. And even if they didn't, you would have to have defrauded them for it to even be relevant.
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More bad news, you can insure your property for what ever you want to insure it for.
Not to mention insurance companies do their own appraisals.
The only way to commit a crime would be to inflate the property, destroy it, and get paid. Since that never happened, they have no case for anything.
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Well, there you have it. Either we have the dumbest DA on the planet or its just another fake news piece.
No state allows you to set your own property values for tax purposes. Who is dumb enough to believe that?
And for tax deductions you ALWAYS depreciate your property values. Its in the tax code

And while everyone is running around to chase their own tales, less you forget, Trump doesn't do any taxes. His law firms do and they are liable for any tax fraud as well. So they will have to fight his tax lawyers on that one and they aren't packing the gear to go toe to toe with a corporate tax law firm in NY who do this for a living.
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Yet another fake claim. How do they propose to force someone they intend to charge, to testify against themselves?
Again, we either have the dumbest DA on the planet or yet another fake news piece.

It never ceases to amaze me how gullible the left is. You would think after 5 years of hundreds of fake criminal claim rabbit holes and the amount of egg on faces there would be some kind of learning curve.
But, Nope, business as usual. lol

 

In what context? If we're talking collusion, there wasn't any evidence that he colluded. If we're talking about what the NY AG is talking about, I have no idea as she hasn't told us what the evidence is. It is my sincere hope that she has found legitimate evidence to hold Trump and his business accountable for all the corruption and dishonesty, but if this is just more empty theater she will be deserving of all the scorn coming her way.

 

The walls are closing in! This is it! Y’all got em this time!

 

Shouldn't there be a sarcastic emoji after your post?

 

We already had him last year.

What's happening to him now only makes the fun last longer.

 

Not to mention the dollars taken out of GOP reelection coffers to cover his various legal fights...

I'm sure they're happy to do it regardless, but I personally would be curious what pct of my political donation is going to defending a former POTUS from personal and primarily pre-POTUS wrongdoing..

 

Not really. It's not exactly like this would be the first civil case the Trumps have lost due to their business corruption. They've been "gotten" in several cases like this. Their fraudulent "university," their fraudulent "charity," Trump Soho, their tax evasion cases, etc.

 

I take this post with a grain of salt since you detest Trump so.

 

The Trumps losing a civil case due to their corruption wouldn't be a "bombshell."

Hate to be the bearer of bad news here, but lying to lenders during your application process is illegal and subject to both civil and criminal penalties. James's allegation is that the Trump's misrepresented asset values and hid additional debt during some of these applications.

That isn't remotely true. If you inflate the value of the property for more favorable terms, that's fraud, whether or not you destroy the property to collect. James's allegation is that the Trumps included nebulous Trump-name brand value to their properties for more favorable insurance and loan terms while lying about doing so.

No, she's just knows a lot more about the law than you do.

Taxes aren't he only issue here, and all states allow you to challenge property valuations. If you lie about your property value during those challenges, you are committing tax fraud.

No one is talking about standard property depreciation. That has nothing to do with this case.

This isn't just about his taxes, and when you sign your name on tax forms, you are legally responsible for their content no matter who helped you prepare them.

They can plead the fifth to any questions they wish to.

Again, she knows the law better than you do, and you've gotten several basic facts wrong.

Whether or not any individual Trumps face individual penalties, both the civil and criminal cases against the Organization are pretty solid. There's a reason why they aren't trying to challenge any of the facts and have turned, instead, to crying about a victim narrative.

And it isn't exactly like this would be the first time the Trumps have lost a civil case like this.

But I'll tell you what, if the Trump Organization comes out of these squeaky clean, I'll donate $100 to the charity of your choice. If they don't, you donate $20 to the charity of my choice. Deal?

 

I detest Trump specifically because of corruption like this. I detest thieves and parasites. But you don't have to take my word for it. Look up any of those cases I just mentioned. In all of them, the Trumps either lost or settled. They have a long history of this kind of behavior.

 

I don't care why you detest Trump because your post is still disinformation and rhetoric.

 

What did I get factually incorrect? We can go one at a time if you want, starting with the civil case against Trump University.

I have a feeling you won't. It's pretty clear why will ignore any fact that makes Trump look bad.

 

Of course, the unbiased would also realize that if Cohen were able to help get Trump convicted and prosecuted, Cohen's sentence would be reduced.

Side note: As it is now, the NY prosecutor is putting all this out, now, (w/o any evidence of wrongdoing) to try and stir enough public sentiment to investigate Trump. The impetuses of the two bogus impeachments and the bogus Trump campaign investigation come to mind.

 

You don't seem to grasp the difference between an admission of guilt and a settlement.

 

Trump had said before that he'd never settle a case that he thought he could win. And you can listen to Trump's deposition yourself if you want to, like I did, wherein he admits to lie after lie after lie. He advertised the University as a place that would teach his real estate secrets with a curriculum he had designed; he admitted under deposition that he lied. He said he had hand-picked the instructors; he admitted under deposition that this was a lie. He admitted under deposition that he had personally approved scripts that contained lies about the instructors having a personal relationship with him. And so on, and so on. The University was a sham. Trump wouldn't have parted with $25 million if he thought he could win. But believe what you want. As I said, you clearly won't accept any fact that makes Trump look bad.

 

What makes you think she doesn't have all of the evidence that she outlined having in her statement? Hell, she even went into specific numbers in some cases, and some of this info is already public. The Trumps haven't even denied any of the factual claims, so far as I've seen.

As for your little daydream about her intention . . . why would she be trying to stir up enough public sentiment to start an investigation? You were aware that there already IS a criminal investigation into all of this, with with an indictment, right?

 

Trump has relied on experts who may turn out to not be experts in previous times in his life which may turn out to be detrimental to him...Lawyers and Fauci, for examples.

Trump takes the advice of so-called experts. You can sue him as well as the demagoguing you are currently doing to him. BTW, what would you say about Trump if he didn't take expert advice, hum?

 

She hasn't presented any evidence of wrongdoing. She's hoping for public sentiment to proceed. Certainly, Cohen is hoping for the same to get a reduced sentence.

 

"Just listening to advice," isn't a legal excuse. And how is that relevant to any of his lies he used to promote/create Trump University?