US murder rate highest it's been in 25 years as big cities shatter records

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  1. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Great.
    I noticed you used the word "would" sell for xyz....It does not, which means its investment potential is limited for example, collateral on starting a business, correct?
     
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    Well that's because Apparently, cost of living it would seem is alien to you ;) Then again I know Norcal very well, and I know the average Joe working his and her ass off thirteen hours a day including travel time, have less there then folks here working far less :) Big city's suck you dry with DNC tax and crazy cost of living, but hey, you enjoy yourselves ;)

    But be aware, the very VERY rich are buying up rural area's not for resale but because they love the cost of living, view, fresh air and freedom they have never experienced before in a city :)
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    I am very aware of cost of living expenses..and its only something to deal with if you have kids.
    Its 2022, one can live in a van and make 150k per year.

    So maybe that is the difference, people in the city just don't have the responsibilities of those who choose the suburbs generally. So less crime.

    Not some democrat, vs republican policy theory.
     
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    Perhaps it picked up on the so called left side while trump was president. Prior to that, it was mostly RW also.
    Whenever polls came up, whatever the topic, but depicted a side. It was most always 60-70% in favor of whatever RW topic was to choose from.

    I also think the age group here is boomers mostly? And they typically want RW policies. IMO.

    I am pretty certain we have other countries posing as normal American citizens who are hired to post divisive posts.
    I don't know what mechanisms this site has for detecting those types of posters.
    But this site is pretty small peanuts.
     
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    Holy balls, forget it, clearly you don't understand. Enjoy the city ;)
     
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    As has been mentioned a few times already, those red states increases are because of those large cities in their states.
    Look at the states with the biggest increase in your chart. Wy, SD, Ky. Some very big cities driving up their homicide rates. /s
     
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    Because you use alot of words to say very little.
    Give me an example of a republican mayor that would do it correct in your opinion for any problem city.

    Whats their formula..get tougher on crime?
    Bad guys learn from example? Yea right.
     
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    Hey I present them in a way I think they will be best understood, clearly it's actually been to many and a total waste of time :) You have more zig zags then anyone can follow!
     
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    So not a single example of a competent conservative mayor that can run an attractive city?
     
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    If the citizens of these cities don't want terrible crime, they need to quit voting for Democrats.
     
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    Rudy did a masterful job. There are many others, but you asked for a single example. However, when Democrats run cities, they become total **** holes.
     
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    You mean... they are filled with people that don't have the capacity to escape and are completely reliant upon the government for their sustenance.

    Chicago and Illinois are seeing a tidal wave of people leave, and it isn't the impoverished. It isn't the lower class. It's upper and middle class being run out of the state and city by liberal left policies that entrap the lower income brackets who couldn't afford to move out of state if they wanted to.

    But you keep on believing in the superiority of urban american liberal cities. Everybody outside of them is just watching an absolute ****-show on re-run.
     
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    I think there’s a two part story to rising murders; who runs the areas that allow those murders to occur and who is committing the murders. Add those two together and it’s a liberal nightmare.
     
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    Not really. The reason why the left controls many urban areas is because they are known as the party that tax and spends to social programs to support hoards of impoverished people. They buy the votes and in turn destroy the cities and people with the capabilities flee.
     
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    Wages are tied to cost of living. Who cares about wages if making 200K a year can get you a 800 SF condo on the upper east side.

    Let's talk about purchasing power as a datum for wages.... want to play?
     
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    Ft Worth mayor is Republican, and murders pretty much doubled in 2020. Miami has had Republican mayor, but we still have issues with drugs, gangs, violence, homeless, etc crime and have some "no-go" areas. Its not a problem that is easily solved. Trying to assign blame based on political party is lazy and weak. Big cities come with big city issues, and for whatever reason Republicans have been unable to make their case about why they should run such places. As a matter of fact, it seems that they have given up on the idea. Its easier to sit back and point fingers.

    Having said that, these same big cities also generate 85% of US economic output, so there is that.......

    These evil cities generate 85% of US economic output, so who would pay for your farm subsidy & SS checks if they didn't exist? Who would pay for anything that happens in the US, including the military? Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
     
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    Why Are There Zero Republican Mega-Cities?
    https://www.econlib.org/why-are-there-zero-republican-mega-cities/

    Is this accurate in your opinion?
     
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    Biden's America is a cesspool
     
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    Biden doesent have that much power.
    Its always been a cesspool then, you are just now paying attention.
     
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    Yes, I am using per capita to look at changes over previous years. If raw aggregate numbers is all you are able to comprehend I apologize for introducing it.
     
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    They didn’t stop posting after the last election. It largely occurred during the prior administration.

    I noticed the decrease after the truth rule was revoked and the right wing trolls came out of the wood work. The threads went from actual discussions to openly mocking one another, lies and conspiracy.

    Moderation has also changed significantly and we have lost many of the mods that fostered such environment. People don’t react well when there are obvious biases in rule application (Or lack thereof)

    It is interesting that you believe this place — that once was a place to learn others opinions and discuss those views — has turned into… this… is a good thing. This isn’t happening on other forms so your belief it was all <insert new right wing conspiracy> hiring people to previously have meaningful conversation is simply laughable.
     
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    JFC, where did i say ANY of that ?

    I said those cities are popular, hence their population ! You made the rest of it up. "reliant on government" WTF does that have to do with where they live ?

    Where are those "upper middle class" moving to ? Oh yeah, the SUBURBS of those same "larger cities". And ask yourself a simple question, why does it cost more to buy a house/apartment/condo in the larger cities......wait for it......because of DEMAND. Why is demand so high ? Oh yeah, because more people want to live there.
     
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    The difference of course is that the murder rate in the 90s was the result of the crack epidemic and not something the government did. Here it is the reverse. Bill Clinton stopped this with the mass incarceration of crack addicts/dealers, let's hope Joe Biden reaches the same conclusion.
     
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    The bottom line is that being soft on crime DOESN’T WORK.

    When you get soft on crime, you are killing people. Yes, Mr Progressive Mayor, I mean YOU. Yes, Mr Woke Liberal District Attorney, I mean YOU. YOU all have blood on your hands, and you made these choices knowingly and deliberately. YOU KNEW your policies would cause needless death, but you did it anyway.

    Jail time for lesser crimes and prison terms for serious crimes WORKS. They both protect society and discourage the criminal. Punishment WORKS.
     
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    Paying people to post, e.g., .50 Army is real and these paid posters exist on many sites. A little research will show that estimates of this "army" range up to several million. To claim it never happened here is based on what exactly? Clearly a flurry of posters that ramp up their posts before an election and disappear after an election are suspect.

    You claim a bias in rule application, but again your claim is based on what exactly? I can only tell you that I have on occasion had a post that you would probably term RW removed with a warning received for a rules violation, so from my experience there are no obvious biases.
     
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