Florida could shield whites from ‘discomfort’ of racist past

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't alter your words, I used the quote option to quote what I was responding to.
     
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    It most certainly is:

    Some high schools are already teaching lessons and units on CRT, where students write papers demonstrating their facility with applying the theory, while other schools are introducing CRT concepts, such as systemic racism, white privilege, microaggressions, implicit bias and intersectionality.

    ,,,

    A July survey by EducationWeek found that barely a year after the murder of George Floyd by a Minnesota cop, 8% of K-12 teachers said they have taught or discussed CRT with students; the figure for teachers in urban schools is much higher: 20%.

    Meanwhile, the Association of American Educators found in July that 4.1% of teachers were actually required to teach critical race theory, and 11% said that teaching CRT should be mandatory.

    If those percentages hold true for the nation’s estimated 2 million secondary school teachers in public and private schools, that would translate to more than 150,000 middle- and high-school teachers who teach or discuss CRT.

    https://www.realclearinvestigations...bundant_evidence_saying_otherwise_808528.html

     
  3. Pycckia

    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    Of course I defend it. The woke want to erase White people. That is why they tear down statues and inculcate White self loathing in the classroom. I am not surprised you defend attacking the self-esteem of Whites.
     
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    Covid death rate Florida - 2,960 per million
    Covid death rate BC - 480 per million

    6.17 times higher in Florida than in British Columbia.

    Florida deaths would be about 10,303 instead of 63,569 if Florida had just done as well as BC.

    Prediction ... you'll ignore my post or play "whataboutism"
     
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    Thanks. I would've cited that in the OP rather than someone else's biased opinion. As I suspected, its a far cry from the claimed "making white people feel “discomfort” when they teach students or train employees about discrimination".

    I dont see that the underlined in your assessment is true. It sounds to me like its 'prohibited' to require agreement with any particular moral judgement ('belief') of the historical facts, not the historical facts themselves. Additionally, the historical fact that blacks also owned black slaves is proof that it wasn't purely 'racist', but also classist. It sounds to me like the bill is, in part, attempting to prevent the teaching of the cherry-picked version of history that is often taught focussing only on white slave owners.

    I will agree the bill is worded poorly and thus is going to be easily misinterpreted by administrators, as these sorts of thing usually are.
     
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    I wonder what it might take to wake folks up.
     
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    This law = WOKE. You demanding laws to protect your feelings because you think someone is trying to erase you = WOKE.

    Its pretty ironic you don't see it.

    No clue what this is supposed to mean. If you need the government to shield your delicate feelings and self-esteem, then so be it. I don't need that kind of government sponsored snow-flakery in my life.
     
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    How about in school childrens lives?
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you need the government to protect your delicate feelings when you were in school? I didn't. This law is not just about schools, it covers private corporations too.
     
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    Maybe you don't know this country as well as you think you do.
    I never supported a Democrat until 2020.
    it's also not a fact.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And your reply was about them being uncomfortable with their racism being made public. We already know that that racists hide their identity. We are discussing making people uncomfortable for being white. Do I support these laws? No! Those opposing it do support similar laws.
     
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    When I was in school there weren't a passel of demented wokesters promoting anti-whiteness.

    Anyway, good luck with your vilification campaign against parents. I'm sure it will win you many elections. (NOT)
     
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    so, white kids cant handle knowing that we enslaved black people, murdered millions of native americans, blocked all chinese from immigrating to the USA?

    are we Americans or are we sensitive wittle snowflakes?
     
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    Nor is there now.

    Pol Pot would agree in saying the government is your parent.

    Once you snap out of the victim mentality, you'll realize you don't need the government holding your hand

    No, no, no, no.... tut-tut. That is way to harsh. New story: We helped the indians by giving them education, health care, food and by telling them about Jesus.
     
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    It may not be politically correct but segregated schools worked very well when it came to peer too peer learning. What wasn't right was the amount of money minority schools received vs white schools. I understand how many want desegregated schools but in practical reality how has it worked out? Talk to most any middle school or high school student away from the ears of adults and you will find that there is a lot of animosity and outright fear for them to express their true feelings about other races and genders. There is a lot less civility in classrooms today. There are some friendships that develop between the races but after 50 years it has been very very small.
     
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    Of course there are demented wokesters.

    Consider this one:

    The academic achievement of Seattle’s youth plummeted as she implemented initiatives like replacing math instruction with courses on “power and oppression.” But in this world, there was no such thing as failing: Those gaps were used to justify still more jobs and efforts like hers. The following book excerpt is the never-before-told story of America’s first “woke” school system.



    https://www.dailywire.com/news/meet-the
    -seattle-schools-woke-indoctrination-czar-who-married-a-child-molester
     
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    its true, we helped the Native Americans by giving them English and Jesus.

    :p
     
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    Don't forget the blankets.

    Hmmmm.....actually that might have to be deleted from the books.
     
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    why do we think our students are too weak to handle our racist legacy?

    should we also stop teaching German kids about the Holocaust? are they too sensitive to know the truth?
     
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    "We" did not enslave anyone. Painting an entire group with a broad stroke based on the actions of a few is the same sweeping generalization fallacy racists use. Do you know what parentage of white people owned slaves? What about all the white people that opposed slavery and fought against it?
     
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    agree, but that is from teaching about slavery and stuff too young imo and making whites feel they need to treat blacks as victims and teach blacks to fear whites as they are out to get them

    before they teach that, kids are just kids, they change when they learn this if too young.... like a PTSD type change
     
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    the USA, as a society, participated in a terrible, racist enterprise known as slavery. we passed all sorts of laws allowing slavery to continue and we passed all sorts of laws to capture runaway slaves in free states.

    this is a burden we all share.
     
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    exactly, every American, we are all just as responsible regardless the color of our skin as we are all Americans equally
     
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    You are incorrect. "We" did not do any of that. Those that supported slavery believed that people should be viewed and treated a certain way because of the color of their skin and you are only repeating "their" mistakes by painting entire groups with a broad stroke.

    It also trivializes those who opposed and fought slavery.
     

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