Unsigned Trump order told Pentagon to seize voting machines

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    I know one thing. Joe the plumber paid taxes so those people could do it. So it's our right to know. And why we all do not know anything is that Donald and his henchmen do everything to keep the lid on what Donald is responsible for.


    Again. The plan to take hold of the voting machines totally predates what happened on jan the 6th.
     
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    Thats why posters like yourself just try and keep those fake fires burning.
    Can you point to the specific wording in that EO that requested the military to reverse anything?
    From what I read, it was clear there was no decision on what happened and requested the proper authorities to investigate and report on their findings.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Simply having the US military confiscate election equipment, would be a criminal act of treason.

    The US military has no business and no authority to get involved in an election.
     
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    Then you would have to discuss that with the Sec of State since nothing in that EO orders the military or the National Guard to do anything.
    It was directed to the Sec, not the military.
    Maybe you should read it instead of just regurgitating what you are seeing posted.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The executive order orders the national guard to seize the voting machines in the six States

    This would be an unconstitutional act of treason.
     
  6. yardmeat

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    He had already tried to pressure state officials, lawmakers, and his VP to reverse the results (and tried to enlist the DOJ to help). But, hey, maybe his intentions were totally innocent with this one, right?

    Face the facts: no candidate in US history has done more to try to reverse the results of an election. No one even comes close. And I know you haven't even finished reading yet and you are already copy/pasting the brainwashed "Buh . . . but Russia" response, but no, nothing about the would have, or was ever intended to, reverse the results of the election. For reasons that are obvious to any of us who have actually read the Constitution.
     
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    I wasn't aware the EO was destroyed or not turned over to the Archives in an effort to hide it.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe you should actually read the executive order as it says nothing about the Secretary of State.

    :p
     
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    Right,
    Initiating an impeachment to remove a president the day he is inaugurated isn't an attempt to reverse an election
    Three years of fake (Trump was a Russian asset) to impeach and remove him isn't an attempt to reverse an election
    Two impeachments with fake claims to remove him isn't an attempt to reverse an election
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Fun fact: impeachments, even if they result in removal, don't reverse elections. Please read the Constitution. I know Trump can't be bothered to do so, but there's no reason you can't.

    Nope, please read the Constitution and learn how impeachments/removal work. They don't reverse elections. My middle school nieces understand this. Why don't you?

    Again, no. That's not how impeachments work. Try reading the thing. It isn't very long. I can point you to the parts that actually describe impeachment and removal if you want, but your average middle schooler can tutor you on the fact that impeachment/removal does not REVERSE the results of an election. Maybe it is the word REVERSE that is tripping you up.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sorry but it is a fact that the Trump campaign team solicited help from Russians.

    This is illegal.

    And then Trump tried to blackmail the president of Ukraine to give him campaign support for his reelection. This again is illegal
     
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    I meant Sec of defense
    Departments and Agencies. (5) Thee Secretary of Defense may select by name or by unit federalization of appropriate National Guard support. (6) Thee Assistant Secretary of Defense for Homeland Security will coordinate support requirements as needed from the Department of Homeland Security.
     
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    Yeah, we all saw the joke during one of his rally speeches.
    Fake claims grasping at air

    Except Zelenski said it never happened
    Everyone on the call said it never happened
    The released transcript of the call proved it didn't happen

    And then when questioned by Republicans, all 12 witnesses Schiff claimed had first hand knowledge all stated for the record, they never heard it, they just heard about it
    And then the mysterious whistle blower who claimed it happened never appeared or testified

    Sorry, that was one of the biggest egg on the faces of Democrats to date
     
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    They say he conceded. Again, take it up with them….
     
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    It wasn't just that speech. His campaign had advance knowledge of Russia's attempts to help them, and they welcomed it with open arms.


    When Zelenski brought up the topic of additional aid, Trump immediately asked for a personal favor in return. Sorry, but facts are facts, no matter how much the God Emperor hates them.
     
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    Just because you deny it doesn't mean it didn't happen
     
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    Sorry, your wordsmithing isn't working.
    Democrats tried over and over to remove a sitting president with a host of fake claims that all got exposed for what they were.
    It was an attempted coup by the left falsifying information that never existed to remove a sitting president and nothing you will ever post will cover it up.
     
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    No need to. Trump himself has made it clear that he has never conceded and never will. I'd call him a child, but that isn't fair. I expect better behavior from a child.
     
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    Its not
    Its because you couldn't find a single witness or your whistle blower to testify that it did.
     
  20. yardmeat

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    There is no "wordsmithing." I used the word "reverse" from the beginning and did so deliberately, and now you finally figured out that's what I said and are desperate to run away from the topic. There was no "attempted coup" by the left. If Trump had been removed (which would have required massive bipartisan support), then the OTHER winner of the election would have become President. Not Clinton. Are you just now realizing that's how impeachment and removal works?

    Trump, on the other hand, fought tooth and nail to REVERSE the election. That mean he wanted to deny the winner the position and have the loser installed instead. Get it now? I can try to simplify even more if necessary.
     
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    Yeah, those 400 Facebook ads were just devastating. lol
    Just because you like what Russia was doing to expose Clintons fake claims, doesn't mean you're working wit Russians. lol

    Then you should be angry at Zelenski for saying it never happened or Schiff who claimed he had the evidence with his whistle blower that he never produced.
     
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    Two failed impeachments and another ongoing investigation that will lead to nowhere. Trump told protestors heading to the Capitol to protest peacefully. You're chasing your tails again, case closed.
     
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    And there it is. If there was anything you and everyone else would already be posting it on here. The simple fact is you hate Trump and that's all the reason you need to call to lock him up. Nothing was signed and no laws were broken. That's the end of that.
     
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    Show me the document, EO, call transcript, whistle blower or individual testimony that Trump ordered the election be reversed.
    As all you have is he requested it be investigated.
    I'll wait
     
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    I never said they were working with the Russians (although the expressed a willingness to and tried to). I said they were aware of the attempts. Which they were.

    Cute dodge. No try quoting anything I said that was factually inaccurate. Go ahead. Don't be shy. Just one will do.
     

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