Omicron spreads mostly among vaccinated

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Hateful and stupid.
     
  2. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Your con is noted.

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    https://publichealthscotland.scot/media/10583/21-12-01-covid19-publication_report.pdf

    Why are you misleading people?
     
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    No, that's exactly what we're seeing.
     
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    OMG if they start overrunning the hospitals, we should definitely decline to give them medical care! Raise their insurance rates! Celebrate when they die!
     
  5. Thedimon

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    Yeah, for like a couple of weeks.
    Do you wonder why Israel is rolling out 4th shot? I bet that not because vaccinated + boosted lasts for that long.
    So, my point stands.
     
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    Your fascist views have been dully noted.
     
  7. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Yes. There is plenty of information from legitimate sources about false negatives. I don't know why anyone looking at testing seriously wouldn't have what they need to know. This is what "pcr false negative rate" returns on a Google search:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=pcr+false+negative+rate&rlz=1C9BKJA_enCA860CA860&oq=pcr+false+negative+rate&aqs=chrome..69i57.1757j0j7&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

    Time for some folks to post less and read more.
     
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  8. LangleyMan

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    Two weeks? Oh, please.
    What is "that long?"
    No, your point doesn't stand.

    You can call them liars, but this is what Pfizer says:
    • Preliminary laboratory studies demonstrate that three doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine neutralize the Omicron variant (B.1.1.529 lineage) while two doses show significantly reduced neutralization titers
    • Data indicate that a third dose of BNT162b2 increases the neutralizing antibody titers by 25-fold compared to two doses against the Omicron variant; titers after the booster dose are comparable to titers observed after two doses against the wild-type virus which are associated with high levels of protection
    • As 80% of epitopes in the spike protein recognized by CD8+ T cells are not affected by the mutations in the Omicron variant, two doses may still induce protection against severe disease
    • The companies continue to advance the development of a variant-specific vaccine for Omicron and expect to have it available by March in the event that an adaption is needed to further increase the level and duration of protection – with no change expected to the companies’ four billion dose capacity for 2022
    https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-r...r-and-biontech-provide-update-omicron-variant
     
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  9. James California

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    ~ Likely they don't know what to do - so they do something, anything to sooth the nerves of citizens. The "vaccines " mode of action are just as much a mystery to the scientists as they are to us. Unlike a virus that occurs naturally, this virus was either totally engineered in a laboratory or modified with gain-of-function so it is unpredictable.
    We are the guinea pigs in this experiment .
     
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    So then you think that California, New York and New Jersey had failed COVID policies?

    Done "as well" in terms of what? Locking everyone in their home for two years?

    How the hell is that an attack?
     
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    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ This seems to be the ultimate goal of the Biden administration. I am expecting color code masks to identify who is "boosted " and who is busted ... :disbelief:'
     
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    Any attempt being made to . 'mislead people' is coming from the kind of :icon_shithappens:PLOP:icon_shithappens: that YOU
    ... are trying to sell here - This decidedly "Intellectually Myopic" attempt to muddy the Facts
    ...................................................../...... that give clarity to the problem has already been delt with.


    I Suggest You Consider & Review:

    Now after YOU have conducted a Judicious Review of the FACTS as to exactly who it
    is that is trying to 'mislead people' , I suggest YOU digest the UPDATE on the Scottish
    DATA
    , and ask YOUSELF what made Prime Minister BO JO Johnson so swiftly about
    face and begin to dismantle the MANDATES & RESTRICTIONS in Britian
    https://www.firstpost.com/world/bor...ps-face-mask-rules-vaccine-pass-10302781.html
    Could it be that now that the FACTS are out he realizes that he may be held Criminally Responsible ?


    ============================================

    VACCINE NARRITIVE IS FALLING APART:
    Latest Health Data From Scotland Mirrors the UK –
    Unvaccinated Have Lower Covid-19 Case, Hospitalization,
    AND DEATH RATES Than the ‘Fully Vaxxed’

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ase-hospitalization-death-rates-fully-vaxxed/

    From The Article:

    The latest public health data published by the Scottish Government reveals that the COVID-19 “
    age-standardized case rate” is at its highest among the double-jabbed ‘fully vaccinated’ – and
    it isn’t particularly close.

    The update also showed the sharp negative efficiency was maintained throughout double
    vaccinated rates for hospitalizations and deaths over the past four weeks.

    And just like in the UK, the group who has fared the best when it comes to avoiding the
    Wu-flu over the past four weeks has been the unvaccinated.

    So much for the US public health regime’s bogus claim that, despite not preventing
    transmission, vaccines are “incredibly safe” and “protect against severe illness and death.”

    What else are they hiding?

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    I do.
    BC schools have been open except May 2020 when school went online while changes were put in place to reopen. People were never told they had to stay home.
    Restrictions on learning materials makes the teacher's job far more difficult, if not impossible. Good teachers will love on—why teach where you're being hassled?—and you'll be left with those who had no way out.
     
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    Well at least you're being consistent, which is more than can be said about most people on your side. I guess I shouldn't be surprised since you've demonstrated this before.

    What were people allowed to do during lockdowns in BC other than go shopping and exercise? And could people do these things for as much of the day as they like?
     
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    Large gatherings indoors were restricted. Restaurants and bars have at times had reduced capacity, or even closed. The government has acted consistently to prevent hospitals from having to restrict nonemergency operations and routine testing. Recently, the government has required vaccination to dine in restaurants, go to bars, and limited gathering sizes when unvaccinated are attending. I think the Omicron variant has peaked and the provincial health officer is beginning to lift restrictions.
     
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    Given that death is a reality of life, and given that you think that the number of deaths in BC is acceptable but the number of deaths
    in Florida is unacceptable, what is your cut off point between 480 and 2960 per million when it starts to become unacceptable?
     
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    @LangleyMan, maybe my above challenge was just too much to handle.
     
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    Who said the number of death in British Columbia is acceptable? The BC government failed to protect nursing home residents by requiring everyone visiting nursing homes be fully vaccinated. Ditto schools.
     
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    Are you okay?
     
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    :pray: ~ Let us hope that Omicron brings immunity and ends this social engineering experiment. Then we can go back to Co2 catastrophes and systemic racism. :aww:
    :donut: :coffeecup::coffeemachine:
    Time for a cup ...
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    Why are you asking that?
     
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    Oh, I thought that you were presenting BC as an example of where COVID policies have been a success. So then where between 0 deaths per million and 480 per million is acceptable?
     
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    I agree. So what learning materials have been restricted exactly?
     
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    ~ Common sense for starters ... :ashamed:
     
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