US to make more than 40 flights to deliver military aid to Ukraine

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  1. ManYacK

    ManYacK Banned

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    I really hope that America will not provide Ukraine with military equipment at the expense of American taxpayers ... but will bill for all deliveries. ;-) demand it from your rulers.
    Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu announced the formation of a new coastal defense division by 2018. According to the Ministry of Defense, Russian troops will occupy the coastal territories of Chukotka, the closest of which are located 86 kilometers from the US state of Alaska. ;-) even closer.
    You know what's funny. Assad is a legitimate president chosen by his people. America demanded the overthrow of Assad. His presidential powers ended a couple of years after the start of the war in Syria. But America did not wait for new elections, but simply began to bomb Syria ... So what? Since then, Assad is still president, since martial law has been declared in Syria. It turned out that America simply extended the power of Assad by making him king. Glory to democracy!
     
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    That is why we are trying to avoid Russia's starting a war, with Ukraine.

    Exactly, which is why you should agree with our and NATO's point of view, that Putin should stop building what clearly has the looks of an invasion force (not credibly any defense detail, or merely "war games"), all along Ukraine's border.


    President Biden is standing up for the principle that has prevented any major European wars since the end of WW 2, which I just quoted you as saying was the type of thing which should be avoided.
    The way that Europe walked into that conflict, is a history, of which it sounds like you must certainly be aware: other countries failed to stand up to Hitler's pretextual invasions. Vladimir Putin is, currently, following that same path of failing to respect sovereign borders: the thing that has spared us from the "bloodbath" wars, you mention, for three-quarters of a century.

    It is a grim irony that even those who have studied the past to learn its lessons, fail to benefit from them, because of their failure to recognize the clear parallels of current events to that past history, until after the fact.




    This is patently false. China & Russia have been discussing the benefits for each, in pursuing their own interests, by allying in opposition against the U.S., in particular, but also NATO, & the West (they, of course, each already have permanent vetos, on the UN Security Council). Again, it is ironic to witness someone capable of keen insight, be so blind to such strikingly similar evocations of the Axis Alliance which you would say, presumably, should have been noted, by shrewd observers at that time-- despite those past political leaders not having such a near as likely to occur reiteration of events, unfolding, before their unified gazes.


    Which he is certainly invited to negotiate over. But to regard a supposed, non-binding, verbal promise from a democratic leader/administration, who faces election every four years, to still have any force, 3 decades later, is a bit ridiculous; yet I lack the word to describe your defending the idea that
    Putin's tenuous claim should be appropriate justification for the huge military buildup which has brought things to the brink of the hostilities, which you issue strong cautions against-- directed, apparently, only towards the U.S. and NATO.
     
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  3. Thedimon

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    8th freighter arrived today.
     
  4. ManYacK

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    Putin does not have any invading forces on the border with Russia... These are all fantasies of politicians and journalists. They showed a photo of a permanent military base, where the deployed equipment returned after the exercise, and it was announced that this was a springboard for the offensive.

    This is nothing more. Tell me the coordinates of this base - I will check it myself and prove my case. Coordinates are not written anywhere - so that people cannot check.

    Show new photos - where you can see how the contingent of troops and support services is increasing day by day.

    There are no photos. All hysteria is just words - no evidence.
     
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    No...I don't speak much Russian....more Ukie.

    Yes I use Putinka...Putler...Vladolf...sewer rat,etc

    I've been to Russia/Ukraine....a distant connection in Zhitomir.

    German on maternal side....originally settled in Texas. Moved to Missouri where mother born....then SDak.

    Paternal side US/Canadian mix....his parents originally settled on Canadian prairie...but he was born raised in Wisconsin ....German, Danish,British heritage.
     
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    Where at....Odessa port?
     
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    Kyiv. That was flight 8 out of more than 40 that are coming.
     
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    Good...make the Kremlin sewer rat bleed.:)
     
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    Kind of feels like they're slow-walking this military aid.

    I'm not sure how much difference a few cargo planes of aid was going to make anyways.

    Good luck Ukraine. I wish you good fortune in the wars to come.
     
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    do you need a war too? Why not wish for a peaceful resolution of the conflict and for Ukraine to pay America for the weapons sold. :)
     
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    No, we're good, thanks though.

    Sure, but Ukraine (and I) can wish in one hand and **** in the other and see which fills up first. If you don't want a war, but your enemy does, there's going to be a war.

    And sure, I'd love to get paid for the weapons we sent them, and I'd love to get repaid by all the welfare deadbeats that took their advanced child tax credit payments and will never repay them, but neither of those things is likely to happen.
     
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    Everyone is so sure that Russia wants war .... only in Russia itself they don’t know about it. :) I suspect that when there is war again in Ukraine, Russia will not come to it again.
     
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    9th flight arrived. :)
     
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    No...because Putinka will be finished.
     
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    Ohhh you bet the neocon koolaid is flowing- tough to maintain the MIC when there is no enemy .. nuttin going on in the world.. Afghan done .. Syria wrapped up .. Yemen still going .. but .. no one talks about that much and we not that much involved ..hands slapped by the ICC for complicity .. war/humanity crimes.

    Need some entertainment Mate .. Eurasia vs Oceana . . hippity hop --
     
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    Dimon, you are such a naive guy, your resentment is delicious! What kind of experienced military are you talking about? About those who managed to get surrounded 7 times by a bunch of miners?)
     
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    I was a naive guy before 2014. I believed in the concept of “brother nations”. I thought that far right western Ukrainians were paranoid about Russia and it would never violate Ukrainian borders. Pootin proved them right.

    8 years of constant confrontation in Ukrainian hot zone on the East gives Ukrainian and separatist forces some very valuable experience.

    Yes, that was a learned lesson too.
     
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    Those weren't miners that supposedly surrounded....:).
     
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    So what did it all come to? Was Ukraine able to achieve any significant victories? You're funny
     
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    Are you suggesting Russki mongrels experienced too...the ones who got whacked in Syria....300+....not one US casualty?

    Russki great warriors when you're defenseless or retreating from them.:)
     
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    Prove it
     
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    Combat experience is big, I don’t understand why you are trying to play dumb.
     
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    That's already been proven ....agent Ixan Joben....maybe the question is ...can you prove there not there...like I asked others like you ...and they failed.:)
     
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    How can I prove something that isn't there? You remind me of Kyrie Irving.
     

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