Who's Providing the REAL Sanctions and Weapons to Ukraine??????????

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  1. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    What has Biden done?
    Lifted the sanctions on Russia's NS2 giving them the opportunity to stranglehold all of Europe sending a message of support to Putin
    Refused to give lethal arms to Ukraine until AFTER Russia invaded sending another message to Putin pre invasion
    Only sanctioned two Russian banks. The EU has banded together to host their own sanctions without any input from Biden.
    Told Putin he won't interfere with his invasion with US troops when he was never even asked sending another message to Putin.

    The entire world knows Biden is a weak incompetent dementia patient occupying the WH.
    Which is why the same EU held Biden in contempt in Parliament for his idiocy in Afghanistan. Because this idiot waited until the Taliban invaded Kabul to evacuate in the middle of the night, left for Camp David on vacation right after the order was given, didn't give any of our allies a heads up, and refused to take their calls while the disaster unfolded.

    Biden refused to allow our soldiers to go in and get Americans out while Germany, France, and Britain sent in their soldiers and got their people out without communicating with Biden.

    Now, without Bidens knowledge, input, or consent, the EU and the Swiss have hosted the REAL sanctions against Russia collapsing their banks, fed wire systems, and confiscating their accounts and equipment globally. NOT BIDEN

    While Biden has fumbled around in the dark to only supply goods (not weapons) pre invasion, guess what the rest of the world was doing.

    Belgium has sent 2,000 machine guns and 3,800 tons of fuel 3,000 more automatic rifles and 200 anti-tank weapons and troops.

    Germany, which has a long-standing policy of not exporting weapons to war zones, approved the delivery of 500 Stingers, 400 rocket propelled grenades 1000 anti-tank weapons, surface-to-air missiles and ammunition.

    The Netherlands provided 200 Stinger air defense rockets and anti tank systems

    The EU has financed the purchase of 500 million and transported lethal weapons to Kyiv

    The United Kingdom has provided anti armor weapons systems

    France is sending more military equipment and fuel

    Paris sent anti aircraft batteries and digital weapons

    The Dutch sent 200 Stinger missiles, 50 Panzerfaust anti tank weapons, and 400 rockets

    Canada sent a half a billion in lethal weapons

    Stockholm is also breaking its historic neutral stance to send 5,000 anti-tank weapons to Ukraine

    Denmark contributing a further 2,700 anti tank weapons.

    Norway is sent helmets and body armour and 2,000 M72 anti-tank weapons.

    Finland sent 1,500 rocket launchers, 2,500 assault rifles, 150,000 rounds of ammunition, and 70,000 servings of field rations.

    Portugal sent night-vision goggles, bulletproof vests, helmets, grenades, ammunition and automatic G3 rifles.

    Prague sent 4,000 mortars, 30,000 pistols, 7,000 assault rifles, 3,000 machine guns, many sniper rifles and a million bullets.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/28/which-countries-are-sending-military-aid-to-ukraine

    And all this done without consulting with weak ass Biden. You know why they aren't speaking with Biden? Because dumbass Biden shared the US plans with China, who in turn shared the information with Russia.

    Biden Shared Intel with China — and China, Naturally, Shared That Intel with Russia
    https://www.nationalreview.com/corn...hina-naturally-shared-that-intel-with-russia/

    Over three months, senior Biden administration officials held half a dozen urgent meetings with top Chinese officials in which the Americans presented intelligence showing Russia’s troop buildup around Ukraine and beseeched the Chinese to tell Russia not to invade, according to U.S. officials.

    Each time, the Chinese officials, including the foreign minister and the ambassador to the United States, rebuffed the Americans, saying they did not think an invasion was in the works. After one diplomatic exchange in December, U.S. officials got intelligence showing Beijing had shared the information with Moscow, telling the Russians that the United States was trying to sow discord — and that China would not try to impede Russian plans and actions, the officials said.

    THIS IS HOW DUMB, WEAK, AND INCOMPETENT BIDEN REALLY IS
     
  2. stratego

    stratego Well-Known Member

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    If the US sends weapons to Ukraine the fighting would intensify and that could destroy Hunters business interest.
     
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    We are sending hunter Biden’s artwork to them for motivation
     
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    I can agree with a statement that Biden is getting too much credit for the global efforts to punish Russia for their naked aggression.

    I don't agree that he's done a poor job at it though. The US is in the same boat as everyone else in trying to do it in a manner that doesn't punish themselves. I'd still like to see a push to up domestic oil production, but other than that it appears as though the sanctions are having the sting they are intended to, and I'm not sure what else the OP would like to see America do on the front. If it's nothing more than oil that's a point, but I don't know that it justifies the vitriol I'm seeing here.

    They should absolutely be meeting with the Chinese on this. I don't understand the gripe here. I'd even be offering China some concessions to get on board. They could bring tremendous pressure to end this with even a simple statement indicating they might consider sanctions unless peace is restored.

    The potential benefit here is well worth risking little more than a feather in the cap of Russian propaganda.
     
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    It might be helpful if we didn't buy 209,000 barrels per day of crude oil and 500,000 bpd of other petroleum products from Russia when we can produce that ourselves.
     
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    https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-approves-350-million-military-aid-ukraine-2022-02-26/

    Biden approves $350 million in military aid for Ukraine

    You forgot to check anything else than your RW sources, did you? Conformation bias is strong in you.
     
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    Not enough.

    What did Trump do? Not enough. What did Obama do? Not enough. What did George W. Bush do? Not enough.

    Putin should have been under pressure from 2008 when he invaded Georgia.
     
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    Yep, and if we did that and the gas price would go up further, you'd be the first to crucify Biden for it.

    Now, I'd be perfectly fine with this, and I'd accept the consequences. The GOP, however, would fall over themselves to use this as ammo to win the midterms. For them, it is ALWAYS party before country.
     
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    It's not just about oil for this country. We have to help our allies.
     
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    We imported similar amounts of oil from Russia under former president Trump. Does he also have some responsability?
     
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    Last I recall, Putin hadn't invaded Ukraine under Trump. Are you up for helping Putin finance his war on Ukraine?
     
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    Our we helping buy paying Putin?
     
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    Well trump helped.
     
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    What would you know about it? lol
     
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    The $350 million Biden just sent Ukraine was the third of three such payments Biden has sent to the Ukraine since he took office,in other words we have sent them over a Billion in aid.
     
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    WRONG
     
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    NO RIGHT !!!!
     
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    He imported oil from russia.
     
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    What part of Russia wasn't invading Ukraine under Trump did you miss again?
     
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    A billion? Did he blackmail them again and withheld the aid like last time. What is 10% of a billion for the “big guy”? Oh wait…. He is prez , so that may be bumped up 20% now…
     
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    What part of trump importing oil did you miss.
     
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    So you wouldn't know the difference between the US importing oil from Russia for decades compared to sanctioning Russia for invading Ukraine while at the same time, helping him finance his attack by continuing to purchase oil from them.
    How did this get so far over your head?
    Most likely the same way you thought Trump was the only president buying oil from Russia. lol
     
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    Our private oil refining companies do all our private sector oil buying,not our government. they are the ones buying Russian oil not our government.
     
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    Which doesn't negate the fact that trump imported oil from Russia, thus financing his invasion.
     
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    Riiiiight :roflol:
    Its amazing how uninformed the left will knowingly makes themselves just for a fake claim.
     
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