Biden’s Approval Rating Jumps 8 Points After SOTU, With Strong Support Of Handling Of Ukraine Crisis

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    President Joe Biden’s approval rating has rebounded after hitting record lows in recent months, with a new NPR/Marist poll finding the share of Americans who approve of the president has risen eight percentage points following his State of the Union address while a majority support his response to the crisis in Ukraine.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/alison...f-handling-of-ukraine-crisis/?sh=79b232b22641

    Great to see More Americans rallying behind Biden.
    A nice little jump from 39% to 47%.

    Just another indication that More Americans are appreciating the Great Job that Biden is doing.
     
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    Yeah, calling it a great job that he's doing kind of devalues the word "great". He's no Trump, but he's still a huge mess.
     
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    Agreed, but let's be fair here, a vegetable is far better than Trump.
     
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    He needs to ignore the greenies and and step up crude production.

    People will vote based on fuel prices whether it’s smart or not. So basically one way or another, production will increase come Jan 2025.
     
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    “Fake news!” in 5...4...3...
     
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    I agree that Biden=a vegetable but I don't think he's better than Trump by a long shot.
    Trump was a terrible speaker and a terrible person, but had good results
    Biden is a less terrible speaker and has disastrous results.
     
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    He certainly needed a boost.
     
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    Pointing out the idiocy of "job approval" for a POTUS.... he's the same man he was before the speech.

    Except only a stone cold anti-American loser would denigrate his handling of the Russia/Ukraine war. His handling of this has been near perfect (so far), which is the complete opposite of the first few weeks of the AF withdraw....
     
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    Getting out of Afghanistan was precisely the right decision. Why didn’t the last two presidents do anything to make it easier?
     
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    Post #10 had 2 pieces of fake news...
     
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    Nobody said it wasn't.... but there were clearly fixable problems in the early days.... Once everybody (who truly wanted to get out) was identified and reasonably safe in Kabul airport, it went really well...

    I don't see how Biden gets full blame for military decisions either, but it goes with the job...
     
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    Not surprising since Biden agreed to accommodate Republicans on some important issues like scrapping Defund Police and he also said an immigration bill would include building a wall. Now don't think all Republicans believed these lies, Biden wouldn't turn his back on the progressives.
     
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    How has the handling of this been perfect? Essentially, after warning the alarms of the Russian Invasion(instead of actually proactively, doing something about it.) The Western World basically abdicated the Memoradum(that's how I'd feel if I were a Ukrainian Nationalist) and left the Ukrainians to dry. Now, whether there's a Ukraine at all depends on the spirit and the forces of the Ukrainians, as the Westerners sit it out.

    Meanwhile, as Zelensky said: It won't stop at Ukraine. After they're done carving Ukraine, they will look at Poland and Finland, and the other NATO members. We will eventually have to fight on "Nato land", because that's the only place left. But if we had stopped them at Ukraine, perhaps there isn't an expansion.

    When the UK drew the line at Poland and yet failed to actually stop them at Poland, that's when it became a world war. Ukraine 2022 is possibly Poland 1939, depending on how the Ukrainians can hold up.
     
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    Production is near what it wad in 2020 when prices were much lower. I don’t think that’s the issue. It’s not like we keep all the oil and it’s free to us.
     
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    Biden has always opposed defunding.
     
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    I think I'll wait to judge how Biden has handled the Russians in about a year.

    As for the Afghanistan thing, I'll judge that by a simple fact -

    Number of American soldiers who died in Afghanistan under the Biden Presidency = 15.
    And there will be NO more. (Trump in comparison had a death toll of 61).
     
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    Its odd. When I look at this adminstration objectively, recognising the political realities that beset it, I see it performing pretty well and consistent with Joe Biden's long established views etc (he's not complicated. He's an old-fashioned liberal style Democrat, not different from Hubert Humphrey, Walter Mondale, Tip O'Neal Ted Kennedy etc). But when I see Joe himself, I shake my head and wonder. So I have to conclude that the people who Biden has surrounded himself with, are not only very good, and experienced with a nice mix of policy wonks and Washington insiders, but that for some reason they are incredibly dedicated to making sure WH policy reflects his vision, his priorities rather than theirs. If someone is trying to move him further left, or further right, they are doing a crappy job of it. If Joe had been President 14 years ago or twenty, these are the sorts of views, values and policies he would have stood up for.

    Its really too bad he can't get any Republicans to cooperate or compromise on anything. Despite his best efforts, and those of a committed white house staff we are still losing ground on virtually every issue, just losing it more slowly.
     
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    Political polling is unreliable.

    Polls = MSM = Fake News
     
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    There is still time for Biden and his whippy dippy CIA to get lots of right weapons to Ukraine.
    Let's hope he has ordered them to get that done.

    Doing it 6 months ago would clearly have been better.
     
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    So you want to "go to war" to save Ukraine.... pretty typical response from the party of war mongers...

    Let's try it a different way... your way clearly doesn't work...

    AND I said near perfect...
     
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    @The Ant

    Was this about what you expected??
     
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    Interesting that this jump pretty closely mirrors the rise in Americans who feel the country should have a "major" involvement in Ukraine: 26%, according to a mid- February poll (released, 2/23, by Associated Press-- NORC Center for Public Affairs Research), up almost 11 points from a mid- January's poll #s, of Americans who supported boots on the ground.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...oQFnoECAgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3BK-jHNIn7stRJsQe7OEKy.

    [SNIP from Jan. poll]

    Fewer than one in six Americans want U.S. soldiers deployed to defend Ukraine if Russia invades the country, according to a new poll published on Friday, as high level talks got underway in Geneva.

    A poll from Convention of States Action (COSA) in partnership with the Trafalgar Group found that just 15.3 percent of likely general election voters believed the U.S. should provide troops as "boots on the ground" in the event of an invasion.

    The figures came as Secretary of State Antony Blinken met Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov for talks in Geneva with tensions between Russia and Ukraine remaining high...


    The COSA/Trafalgar Group poll was conducted from January 12 to 14 among 1,081 likely general election voters and has a margin of error of +/-2.98 percent.

    The Trafalgar Group enjoys an A- rating from poll tracker FiveThirtyEight.

    Respondents were asked what level of involvement the U.S. should have if Russia invades Ukraine.

    Deploying troops had the lowest level of support, while 31.1 percent of respondents supported providing supplies and weapons.

    [End SNIP]

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.newsweek.com/quarter-americans-support-major-us-role-russia-ukraine-conflict-poll-1682002?amp=1&ved=2ahUKEwiDjrzDsa32AhXegnIEHXGNAIoQFnoECAwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1mQYjArXZjiwXDKnYQmptJ

    [SNIP from Feb. poll]

    Nearly 26 percent of Americans polled think the U.S. should be playing a larger role in the situation, while 52 percent said the country should play a minor role—and 20 percent said the U.S. shouldn't be involved at all.

    While only about of quarter of Americans polled by the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research believe that the U.S. should be more involved with Russia and Ukraine, over 50 percent said they were very or extremely concerned that Russia's influence around the world presents a threat to the United States—an increase of 8 percent from August 2021.

    [End SNIP]

    There we see that 8% figure, coincidentally, again, in the increase of people "extremely concerned," with Russia's threat to the U.S. Also, if we equate this poll's, "a minor role," with the last poll's specifics of "providing support & weapons," that number has climbed by 21%

    But not everything's coming up, smelling Biden:

    [SNIP]

    Meanwhile, only 32 percent of Democrats think the U.S. should have a major role in the conflict while 22 percent of Republicans think the same. In general, the poll showed a decrease in Americans' approval for how Biden is handling the country's relationship with Russia, down by six percent from last year.

    [End SNIP]

    Less approval for Biden's handling of the Russia relationship, since Russia invaded Ukraine-- ya think?

    But this poll does put to rest those who are contending that Republicans are stronger against Russia, than Democrats, who are about 50% more likely than their GOP counterparts, to support our playing a "major role in the conflict."

    Note: I mention this to put an end to the bluster of those who spout off this false, partisan claim; not to keep the fight going, only with Dems as the aggressors. Enough of this stupid squabbling over which Party has the answers, and which one is mucking up everything! All are entitled to opinions, over the unknown repercussions, in the future, of today's choices. Determining whose are better thought--out, should be determined by thoughtful consideration, not by dismissive, partisan labelling.




    Additional PBS story, on the February poll, focusing on a majority of Americans NOT wanting a major U.S. involvement, in Ukraine:

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...oQFnoECBcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw274Ag3ibLznGv8Dnhpxk5R.
     
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    Given the GOP's and trump's love of Putin, as Putin assassinates women and children perhaps Biden is starting to look pretty good.

    Is it any surprise that trump adored a cold-blooded killer? Too bad the Republicans are just now starting to figure that out. It was obvious to those of us grounded in reality.
     
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    Interesting - but you had no problem believing polls when they showed Biden's approval lower than Trump's.
    Whatever.
     
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    Yup, there is no credibility on the right.

    They continue to slam the left and say nothing about trump and the right wing love of Putin.
     
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