Exclusive: Washington pins easing of Venezuela sanctions on direct oil supply to U.S. - sources

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  1. Yulee

    Yulee Well-Known Member

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    Sanctions don’t work. It just give the power to the Dictator. Currently our sanctions have given Maduro the power to decides who gets food. Maduro has the military and he who has the military has the country in Venezuela. I would prefer we not making enemies within driving distance. Be nice to have them help with the border control as well.
     
  2. Vote4Future

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    Venezuela is not the solution to our problems. Biden is the problem and Venezuela cannot help us with that.

    And now Venezuela wants the U.S. to lift all sanctions against it. Deal with the devil, just as I said.
     
  3. Junkieturtle

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    As long as you can't see anything past Joe Biden, that will always be your answer, and most times you're going to be wrong. These issues must be looked at with an eye that isn't solely focused on partisan nonsense.
     
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    Do you think the US should ban all oil from nations that violate human rights or only Venezuela?
     
  5. Vote4Future

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    Nice try. Failure on you though!

    Taking oil from Venezuela on their terms is a deal with the devil and I would say the say if anybody else was President. Joe Biden is scared and doesn't know what to do so he is making a deal with the devil.
     
  6. Vote4Future

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    To answer your question, yes.

    If it were only that simple. We are not importing oil from Venezuela today for a reason. That reason has not gone away. Making a deal with that devil smells of fear and inability to lead.

    Find a better solution.
     
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    So gas prices are not your primary concern then but rather not supplying nations that have a poor record of human rights abuses. Seeing that cheap oil mainly comes from such places you would be ok with fuel prices above $10.00 as long as we are using American / Canadian or other similar nations, yes?
     
  8. Chrizton

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    I doubt it matters. From what I have read, they don't have a lot going on in the way of growing their output capacity. Plus Venezuela has relied upon Russia for quite awhile to bypass sanctions so I am not sure they are going to really suddenly abandon Russia. The only way we would get anything out of them is if Russia uses Venezuela to bypass US sanctions the other way.
     
  9. Vote4Future

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    You have no fact based assessment that says our gas prices will exceed $10 per gallon if we don't cave to the Venezuelan devil in charge so that we can get oil from them. Isn't that the topic here? Oil from Venezuela.
     
  10. Junkieturtle

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    Making a deal with the devil is exactly what buying oil from Russia is. Putin literally used his oil money to fund an invasion of a sovereign nation. While I'm not defending the human rights abuses in Venezuela, they have not risen to level of Vladimir Putin.

    But you're deadset on criticizing Biden and you're going to do it whether it makes sense or not, so have at it.
     
  11. Vote4Future

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    Just a little short sighted. Sanction in place against Venezuela. Sanctions in place against Russia. Venezuela kills innocent people in their country. Russia kill innocent people in another country.

    Pretty much the same kind of evil, but you keep rationalizing your President's stupidity.
     
  12. Junkieturtle

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    He's not my president, I did not vote for him. I didn't tell anyone else to vote for him either.

    What are your suggestions for countries that we can buy oil from who don't kill innocent people?
     
  13. Vote4Future

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    Canada. That was easy.

    Hmmm...that Keystone pipeline project. Maybe it made more sense than liberals thought.
     
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  14. Junkieturtle

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    Why do we need another pipeline to buy Canadian oil? The additional pipeline has nothing to do with the amount of oil they pull out of the ground, it only has to do with transporting it once it's pumped out.

    Is Canada able to supply all of our oil needs alone?
     
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    if this doesn't convince you that Bradon hates American workers nothing will
    he rather give jobs to Tyrants like Venezuela and Iran then give American oil workers jobs
     
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    how about our selves
    Umm that is a novice idea isn't it
     
  17. Junkieturtle

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    American oil companies require high oil prices to make it worthwhile to access a good amount of reserves, putting us essentially in the same boat that we already are price wise.
     
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    so what was it Trump did that kept prices at a round 2 per gallon and become a net exporter of oil?
    and then all of a sudden right when Biden took office prices started to clime and here we are 4 per gallon
     
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  19. Junkieturtle

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    What Trump did? Trump didn't do anything. And Biden took office a year into a global pandemic that upended economies and disrupted production worldwide. Lets stop pretending that the price of oil has only been rising for the Untied States and only because Biden was elected.
     
  20. Vote4Future

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    Biden is a coward! Bending to the will of terrorists.
     
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    stats don't pretend

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    pay attention to the dates
    prices were on the decline tell Biden was elected then they continued to clime
     
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    The Democrats know that if they get the price of oil down, not only will that get the price of fuel down, which is one major indicator of inflation, but also will have a trickle down effect in helping to make other services in the economy cheaper. (since businesses and workers pass on higher fuel costs to the consumer)

    The Democrats know their policies have contributed to high inflation and so now they are in a little bit of damage control mode. They don't want voters to think bad of them.

    But there are several Republican Senators who want to use this as a wedge between Russia and Venezuela, to weaken Russia's ties with the rest of the world. (And of course give American oil companies access to Venezuelan oil, because Venezuelan state companies are hopeless and can't efficiently run the operation themselves)
     
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    If you want the Keystone XL pipeline to be considered again, reroute the section that is on disputed land. An extra $1 per sq ft is not that expensive, is it.
     
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    The sanctions on Venezuelan oil were put there in 2019 by the Dirty Donald administration, not by Biden.
     
  25. Vote4Future

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    Venezuela kills their innocent citizens. But sure, it's Trumps fault. #smdh
     

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