Who does—and doesn’t—support sending U.S. troops to Ukraine

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  1. modernpaladin

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    We're not allied with Ukraine and we're not the world's police.
     
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    No NATO troops, no No-Fly Zone, that will mean war with Russia that could very well go nuclear.
     
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    So actually they're pretty much even?
     
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    Well that clears Biden of any wrongdoing. That darned Trump.
     
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    Not at all. Just reveals the hypocrisy of the Trump supporters who criticize him for these things, as well as illuminating their selective attention span.
     
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    We're brothers in freedom and democracy, and when there is a villain operating at the global level, the world needs some kind "police" to take a stand.
     
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    I think it has to do with the intentional killing of innocents by the Russian Military, the images and connotation of Russians, aka Communists, that the GOP is opposed, and the President of Ukraine is more like them politically.

    However, as an independent, I think we should use SEAL and Special Forces in Ukraine as force multipliers and to a no fly zone over Ukraine.
     
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    Was that your position a year or so ago when Azerbaijan invaded Armenia?
     
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    You are on a roll tonight!

    "Lefties are most driven by issues of liberty"

    Ha! You're killin' me!
     
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    During WWII Hitler had a 13 million man Army. Russia has maybe a million and a half. They don't have the ability to march across Europe like you're imagining. Otherwise they would have pacified Ukraine already. You are drifting further and further into hysteria territory. Let's stick with Ukraine, where the actual invasion is going on. And on that I've already said it's not worth WWIII.
     
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    Threatening and using are two different things. He is still threatening, but he will never use them. Otherwise, EVERYONE will launch including the Chinese. And Putin is not that stupid.
     
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    oppose, send weapons, no boots on the ground
     
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    Not really comparable in terms of scale.
     
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    I honestly find it hard to believe that you "don't recall" that. It was a seminal moment of the 2012 campaign.

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    Cross the red line he drew and see what happens. Keep poking the bear, keep poking the bear....it eventually lashes out with the full force.
     
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    Romney changed his mind. It's China now. You are behind the times.
     
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    Turkey shot down a Russian fighter jet just a few years ago. ;)
     
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    A vote for a no fly zone over Ukraine is a vote for World War III. If you are an independent you are very much in the minority according to this poll.
     
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    Soviet Army had 5 to 7 million. Stalin had purged the Red Army of its senior leadership from 1930s onward. When Germany attacked in Operation Barbarosa, they were equally matched manpower wise, tactics was the difference in the early stages until Stalingrad came, a military blunder by Hitler. If not, then Germany could have captured the Crimea region and the vast oil reserves that would have hindered any Soviet counterattack.
     
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    The discussion was about Democrats.
     
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    ...and we should have kicked Turkey out of NATO.
     
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    OK, but not really relevant to the point of the conversation.
     
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    But they did cross Putins red line and we are still here. :)
     
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    Cross the red line he clearly spelled it out in his speech and see what happens. He is not Obama. Bloody hell, you started stockpiling on iodine. I was just pulling your leg. Off you go to Ukraine buddy, don't be a keyboard warrior. Be the real one. Otherwise many people will call you a shameless coward. Don't be like Talon. You are better than that.
     
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    I really don't care if I am in the majority or minority, I do what I think is the right thing to do.

    However, it's not WW3, not even close. I do not like bullies, whether they are Putin or some person on the street berating an innocent person just because they are different.
     

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