Twitter Under Elon Musk Will Be a Scary Place

Disagree – Trump has a right to convince his supporters that the election was stolen, the same as Democrats have the right to accuse Trump of collusion with Russia. On the public square each side has a right to publish their own arguments, only the court can decide which arguments were dangerous to our society.

Twitter decided they are the supreme court – they decided who can and who cannot. And the Trump was not the only one example, cancelling NY Post story about Hunter Biden laptop was clearly decision to censor Democrats unfriendly information.

IMHO – the solution is to remove Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act which protects Twitter and other social network from civil liability and make it ILLEGAL prevent any post, unless a COURT will decide that a post is harmful to society.

BTW – scaring Tesla stock owners in this thread is…very naïve.

 

Your are confused. Democrats didn't accuse the Trump campaign of collusion with Russia. Our intelligence agencies did! A Republican senate committee! A Republican Special Prosecutor.... For heaven's sake, they even confessed!!! Before a judge. Under oath!

So your attempt at sounding "independent" is not working. It's not criticizing both parties equally what makes you independent. Siding with FACTS is what makes one independent.

NOBODY has a "right" to accuse anybody of anything without evidence. What you are doing is accusing both parties without even bothering to check the facts. Your insistence in mentioning the NYP won't help give you the "appearance" of being objective if you continue to refuse to deal with facts. Because it's based on emotion, and not necessarily on the facts. Which doesn't mean the facts in that case are wrong. Just that you are not using them.

BTW, I own plenty of Tesla stock.... Both directly and on ETFs. Since before the split. I am simply telling you FACTS. We are taking a bigger RISK than we used to.

You don't appear to grasp the importance of facts. And emotion is not going to help you here.

 

No doubt. I think his plan is to install non-partisan moderation. That will attract more users. That should boost the company's value. Musk is pretty good at making money. When things are fixed, he can make it public again and earn a few more billions.

 

the entire twitter thing will fade and so will musk

twitter has been around what?? 16 or 17 years???

the ownership may change and the rules and costs may change

but twitter stays the same

it is what it is

a place to put a message in a few characters for anyone that will listen

 

Guess that’s going to be a time will tell situation.

 

Yes but it isn't all that far in the future. Not much will change by this fall other than that the primary elections will be completed.

 

I wonder what the right’s next culture war will be now that someone the like owns Twitter.

 

I have no idea. I don't approve of culture wars.

 

Nor do I, but that seems to be the strategy of the right, which can’t attract voters based on policy.

 

Something wrong with attracting voters based on policy?

 

Not at all. If that was your take away from my post then I’d say I wasn’t very clear. My apologies.

I don’t believe the right can offer any policy prescriptions capable of pulling in the vast majority of their voters. As such, they rely on the culture war to stir up their base and draw them out to the polls.

 

Sorry, that makes no sense to me. Why would the right have a problem developing policies that appeal to conservative voters? What does that have to do with Twitter?

 

Their policies do little to nothing to improve the lives of the vast majority of their voter base. If Trump ran on lower taxes for wealthy corporations and a temporary cut for the middle class, how many people would vote for that? I suspect not many. It doesn’t do them any good.

Now if the right says, “The left wants to groom your children to be gender-queer, homosexual, trans, other-kin,” well that’s scary! They don’t want that. They’d better go vote in their guys who will stop that from happening.

The same thing has been happening with Twitter. “Twitter is taking away your first amendment rights! The lib-cucks are using Twitter to groom our children!” More outrage about things that aren’t happening.

It doesn’t matter if what they say is true or not. Their voters are now scared and/or angry. Those are very motivating emotions. Motivated people vote.

 

OK. I disagree.

 

I’d be interested in what you disagree with.

Why do you think the culture war exists?

 

I disagree with everything you said. The culture war exists because people are partisan. Well, most people are.

 

I wouldn't remove section 230. I would modify it though. Differentiate between platforms and publishers. If a social media site claims its a platform then they must meet certain criteria aiming towards free speech for all, not just one side or the other. Otherwise they are a publisher that can be sued.

 

And that's the biggest problem. They live so deep inside their own bubble, they don't even know what normal is anymore. One of their top executives, CRYING over this? How fragile and weak minded is that woman? How can she lead anyone or anything? Bet she'll be kicked to the curb on day 1, which could be why she's crying. Oh well, she can go work for the Biden Admin or MSNBC...they're hiring?

 

Are you familiar with Christopher Rufo and the role he played in the culture war revolving around CRT? If so, are you familiar with his stated intentions?

 

This has to be the most absolutely hilarious thing that has happened in a long time there are so many wadded up panties on the left right now that they're beyond number.

Oh my God a social media giant might let people post things they want we can't have that!

Suck it up and deal with it life is not fair and life is rough buttercup!

 

seems to me the right wingers all act like they have been silenced on twitter ..

twitter will not change.. people tweet and others decide if they want to read the tweet..

the above will NOT change

no way can they allow bomb threats and chemical war threats...or threats of bodily harm

will people begin to tweet pornographic material and call it free speech??

a person can certainly yell "fire" in a crowded theater

but then that person must be responsible for their action

I dont make the rules I just know what they are

 

So is your position that Twitter did not have anti-conservative bias?

 

No. Sociological theories are of no interest to me. Sorry.

 

Well, maybe I am confuse and Twitter is confused too - they forgot block Hillary's Clinton tweets about Russia collusion:
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/793250312119263233

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/793234169576947712

I like your suggestion that I "attempt at sounding "independent"" - it is an old trick - who is not with us, is against us!

 

You call their moderation partisan because you admit that pushing conspiracy theories and violence incitement (which gets people banned) are in fact Republican views. You own it, and I think that is a step in the right direction.

No. Removing it would make social media platforms responsible for posts made by others (the posters). For example, if a poster makes death threats on-line, sells drugs, or prostitutes, arranges orgies etc the provider would be held responsible. It would result in massive increase in moderation, and every post would have to be reviewed and approved before publishing it. In other words, it would make on-line discussions impossible.