DeSantis moves against Disney with push to eliminate special status for Florida theme park

not sure about that, one on one could mean the teacher could walk to each student in a classroom and repeat herself

 

A lot of our spending reflects us having higher income levels. We also put money into some things like athletics they do in community programs. Still, I think we waste money on buildings, stadiums, gymnasiums, athletic facilities. Less expensive facilities could work just as well.

Results are what they are. Why aren't we in the top ten? Anyway, our top K-12 schools, many are public schools, are pretty good.

 

The law (http://laws.flrules.org/2022/22) turns teachers into targets, subjecting them to a tribunal process and injunctive relief. It's not the way to run a business.

 

This is what is prohibited:

"Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."​

They're going to set down "state standards" for how teachers are supposed to act—"educator practices and professional conduct principles"—somewhere else.

"By June 30, 2023, the Department of Education shall review and update, as necessary, school counseling frameworks and standards; educator practices and professional conduct principles; and any other student services personnel guidelines, standards, or frameworks in accordance with the requirements of this act."​

The state bureaucracy says somewhere else how teachers are supposed to act as a teacher.

 

thanks, but I do not think it's ok to take students one by one out of a classroom either, which is what I was replying too

 

Judges decide this way while lawyers run the state tribunals.

 

Well, you are entitled to your opinion. But I see what kind of minds are graduating from twelve long years of public school education in the United States and, to me, it sure as hell is not (NOT) a 'striving toward excellence'....

 

The standards for how teachers are supposed to deal with students individually are set by state bureaucrats and local school districts.

The teacher is the guy in the left. The guy on the right is a lawyer. They know everything.

 

They're striving toward what is an almost meaningless high school diploma.

Well, not exactly—students seem most intent upon "walking the stage." Many don't care if they actually graduate. (I kid you not.)

 

I believe you, Langley... our whole public education system in the United States is a badly-run, horribly expensive, near-useless FARCE.

We don't focus on 'excellence' anymore... just on getting the required numbers of 'students' to 'walk the stage', so that the school bureaucracies can whine and bitch that they need more and more and more money -- a lot of which is forcibly extracted through taxation from people who never have had any children in any public school. Very truthfully, the public education system in Germany is one we should try to emulate!

 

Yeah, I went to school too. I have also been teaching for over 28 years. I think maybe I've seen more.

 

Not meaningless at all. Consider the difference in fortunes between those who have graduated high school and those who have not.

 

Especially for woke teachers & their unions, who unwittingly exposed parents to what was really happening at school.

 

Education is basically state based, and while you knock it, the greater majority of foreign born students do excel with their school work.

 

Especially for the students.

 

Ah! So, you're a teacher in today's lovely American educational FIASCO...? That actually explains much....

 

What do you mean?

 

When you're right you're right.

 

Well I looked it up, we spend 14.5k per student per year. That is 5th in the world, so teachers, administrators and school boards need to step it up!!! Our PISA ratings don't reflect our spending, according to your chart. Get back to teaching reading, mathematics and science. The parents can manage the sex and gender piece like they have since the beginning of the country.

 

I guess the important thing is our BEST are equal to or better than anyone else's BEST. And unlike most Chinese people, we aren't starving, locked in our homes or executed by our govt at will, for saying or thinking the wrong thing. What do those 50 points truly add up to? In my professional adult life, I can tell you, it didn't matter that I got mostly Bs in school rather than A's. It meant absolutely nothing. And going back, would the extra effort required to get straight A's would have mattered? NOPE. Not at all, unless I was a doctor=)

 

There are school districts and schools doing a good job, but wayyyy too much of what you describe.

We do focus on excellence in some districts and some programs like International Baccalaureate, Advanced Placement and language immersion.

We need more money for hiring better teachers, but adding money won't necessarily be spent on teacher pay or improving instruction.

Maybe. I think we might look at Singapore, Estonia, Canada, Finland, Ireland, Korea, Poland, Sweden and New Zealand.

 

We do teach reading, math and science, just not as well as we should. One way to do a better job is to integrate these most basic skills into other instruction. Students are more motivated to learn basics when they see them used.

Example... I taught basic economics in my history courses and had to teach graphing to some students who had passed in math classes when they by their own admission never learned how graph.

The sad thing about all this is that students will on their own make a much greater effort if we demonstrate to them why skills we expect them to learn are important. You'd think dolt teachers would figure out a motivated student doesn't cause problems. As my first administrator used to advise teachers: "You keep them busy or they'll keep you busy." The school motto: "Success through effort."

 

You can get into many two-year colleges without a high school diploma. Of course, if you don't score a piece of paper there...

 

How about the Big Crazy going on in China with their lockdowns? Someone should tell them the virus is no longer controllable that way.

True, true. I skipped grades in school, did pretty much did what I wanted in high school, graduated early and went to university when I was 16. My high school GPA was 2.29, but I was admitted to university based on my ACT and SAT scores. I skipped literally hundreds of classes because of the then statewide hole in the California law on pupil attendance. The school left me alone when they figured out I was prepared to let other students know about the hole. (They were wise to do that because I would have. I wasn't bluffing.)

BTW, I got good grades in university.

Because I went to university early, I was the staff member who worked with students and their parents on accelerating high school and leaving a year early. There are indeed pros and cons. The majority choose to stay in high school, but those who opted for an early exit feel like I did-—overjoyed.

 

Ha! Yeah, and that latest comment from you explains even more.....