Biden administration unveils ‘Disinformation Governance Board’

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  1. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    I do.... 100%... as long as they back that up with the rationale and actual facts...

    Those still exist, ya know...

    Although, quite honestly, most disinformation is pretty easy to spot for the educated among us (also, stay off of Fox)....
     
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  2. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    There aren’t people who think those things?
     
  3. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Honestly govt saying something isn’t true is going to make more people believe it is anyway lol
     
  4. Steve N

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    Let's take a peek at the previous Ministries of Truth the left touted and see how they worked out:

    Snopes - totally fraudulent, frequently debunked, the left used to cite them all the time and now even they don't believe snopes any more.

    Wikipedia - even its founder said it has a left wing bias

    Jen Psaki - if she was believable then we wouldn't need a ministry of truth, would we?

    CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post, et al, if they were believable, again, we wouldn't need a ministry of truth, would we?

    Twitter - need I even say anything?
     
  5. Egoboy

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    LOL... I don't know about more, but it will make it a lock for the crazies...

    It's mystifying that people that don't care what the government says want a say in electing the government...
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All they need is a slogan:


    Trust Me!

    Leaving the Thinking to Us!

    Why look for proof when we have the troof!
     
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  7. The Mello Guy

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    Is there anything that’s true, and is govt allowed to say so?
     
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    A few. But not a whole generation as you claimed. I'm wondering why you would say such a thing.
     
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    Interesting.

    How is GOVERNING INFORMATION/SPEECH a legitimate, constitutional function of the United States government?

    How is this a legitimate use of taxpayer money?
     
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    You’re not familiar with hyperbole huh?
     
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    Interesting that the Soviet Union had that. Germany had that. China has that. What exactly should the government do to people who express opinions that conflict with the financial interests of the billionaires that own the government? Kill them? Torture them? Imprison them? Deperson them? Censor them?

    Ok now lets work with your answer to the above question. Lets play a game with it. What if the Republicans take the House and Senate in the midterms and Desantis wins the Presidency in 2024. He now has the power that you want the federal government to have. Would you be happy if he began torturing, killing, imprisoning, depersoning or censoring people who disagree with traditional conservative values? The mistake you make is your assumption that the unconstitutional power you want to give the federal government will always be used to oppress people you disagree with. You lack the imagination to understand that the power could easily be used to oppress people you agree with. That is a very dangerous assumption on your part given the poll numbers coming in for Democrats at this moment in time.
     
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    They aren’t going to be governing it.
    When people say the moon landing was fake, is it inappropriate for them to say it’s not?
     
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    As is often the case, I don't know what you're talking about. The Disinformation Governance Board is a "government health org?"

    Also you keep saying things that I don't recall saying. Please quote what I said about rights being violated.

    What I said about Libertarians is this: "I can't imagine any libertarian defending this." So are you saying the Disinformation Governance Board is perfectly defensible? Well you have not made that argument. In fact, you've not really made any argument, so please explain your position on the Disinformation Governance Board.
     
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    True, and that's one of the main reasons taxpayers shouldn't have to spend a cent on a board governing information.
     
  15. Lil Mike

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    You already know how how it functions? Could you source that?
     
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    If you can't imagine libertarians defending this, then what liberty are you claiming is violated? I can't think of how to dumb this down any more. I'm sorry.
     
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    We've been over this. It will chill expression of political speech.
    That's reason enough to **** can the idea without further discussion.
     
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    What a pile of garbage... If just one of you bothered to actually find out the goals and purpose of this board, I would DOUBLE person them....
     
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    LOL - Dude, GOVERNANCE is right there in the title. :lol:

    Again, how is that a legitimate, constitutional function of the USG and expense of taxpayer money?

    It's not.

    Seriously, does it take the word of the USG to convince you that the moon landing was real?

    The level of credulity that requires is right up there alongside the credulity required to believe whatever some kook tells you to believe.
     
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    You're part right...

    So let's try this again.

    Is the Disinformation Governance Board a "government health org" like you claimed?

    Do you think Libertarians would support this Board? Are you a Libertarian are just a knee jerk Democrat?

    Since you claimed I mentioned the First Amendment in this thread, please explain how I related it to this Board?

    Since you claimed that this Board is not going to "dictate to private companies what is truth and what isn't," how do you know that? Would it be OK to you if they did?

    Since you claimed Trump (because he's always part of any thread) tried "to end the 1st Amendment," how exactly did he try to do that?

    Please explain your position on the Disinformation Governance Board. Is it a good thing and do you support it?
     
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    That is not what we are discussing. This is about putting them in charge of the truth. The same people we trusted with being responsible with our hard-earned tax dollar wants to be in charge of the truth!!!

    The Ministry of Truth thoroughly investigated their claims and have determined them to be 100% true. Now all we have to do is assign a term to those that disagree and get people to rebleat that term for the purpose of demonizing and dividing. Perhaps make them wear a symbol in public!
     
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    You imagine correctly. No libertarian would ever defend this for a number of reasons. Only a fake "libertarian" would.
     
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    The government told us about Russia Russia Russia, Putin’s assets, a secure border, kids in cages, no new taxes, inflation being Putin’s fault, global warming killing all of us and it’s racist, visit Chinatown, nursing homes, white being the most lethal threat, the evidence is in plain sight, just pay for it, defund the police, saving $2500 on our medical insurance, I did not have sexual relations with that woman, 80 million votes, cops are racists, very fine people, 50 intelligence people confirmed, inflation is transitory and it’s Putin’s fault, and on and on and on. Has any Democrat, psaki especially, confirmed Hunter Biden’s emails?
     
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    Probably not a good idea for Yardmeat to get a job as a police dispatcher. A frantic woman will call complaining a very large man is trying to break into her house and he won't send help because she has not been raped or murdered yet.

    Then he will attack the woman for promoting a right wing conspiracy.
     
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    If I'm wrong it's because you may not be clear enough.

    I asked: For as long as the United States has had intelligence agencies do you think it's just now that an agency needs to be created to deal with disinformation?

    You said the first word of your response answered the question. That first word was the word "No".
     
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