Should discrimination be legal?

Anti discrmination

 

I'm not doing that.

 

You should have the right to refuse service to anyone, at any time, for any reason or no reason at all, unless you have agreed otherwise with that individual in a contract.

 

The only time such should be banned is when those businesses provide a "need" such as basic cook it yourself food, housing etc (sorry, cake shops are not needed so they are not under this). Also when a service is so large that they can effect elections. Otherwise any business should be able to discriminate all that they want.

Now, WHY do I believe this? Because I want the bigoted to expose themselves. So they can lose business. Also we do have a Right to Association, meaning we can choose to deal with someone or not.

 

Could you please name those States? That sounds like a total fabrication to me.

 

The government already discriminates, race-based loans, affirmative action...etc

 

A ton of discrimination is perfectly legal, acceptable, and practiced. Some discrimination, like your examples, are not legal and IMO should not be legal.

 

No. Doing that is unamerican.

 

You could decide to do those things but they aren't rights. I'm not very clear on anti discrimination law but I think it would be better for you to find a way to ban who you wish for some other reason than race or religion. Government certainly frowns on that.

 

It is very American.

It is the exercise of individual rights.

 

I vote yes. I think to an extent people are doing today and calling it safe spaces. So if they are allowed to discriminate then all should be allowed

 

What was it we heard about Twitter when we were talking about them banning people for having the wrong opinion it's a private company.

 

North Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas have no anti discrimination laws.

 

Yes you can, but you will be in both civil and proable criminal violation of said discrimination. In addition, when the media makes that an issue locally, your business will be, well, toast. It is why I said why should be businesses discriminate in the first place. I find that very bizarre if you want to run a business. Yes, there are laws a business must follow, industry standards to abide by, etc, but none of that involves discrimination.

Second, we have had businesses discriminate against a minority, namely LGBTQ while claiming "religious freedom." I say bullhockey. Romans 12:1-2 states that we are to be transformed of this world, among other things. Christ taught us to love one another, And the list goes on, and nowhere in the Bible, at least in the NT, is to say we are to treat people like that the way certain Christians try to do. Finally, the ultimate viewpoint of all Christians is Philippians 2:12.

 

Do you mean SBA loans to minority-run businesses? Are those loans race-based? And affirmative action is not race-based. It does the opposite. It prevents race-based decisions to begin with.

 

Oh b******* it establishes a quota.
It forces people to pass over more qualified candidates just because they happen to be a majority race.

 

And so in what hysterical and hyperbolic alternate reality do you expect the civil Rights act to be repealed?

If anyone wants to do so it would be the party that fought tooth and nail against it. But it will never happen so you can stop being hysterical

 

Wrong.

you can discriminate any way you likme against anyone you like without ANY criminal or civil sanctions because it is legal. UNLESS you are one of the minority that the law discriminates against.

The very law itself which forbids discrimination by business owners is a contradictory asnd fascist law.

 

No you can't. The question with civil is how deep are the respondent's pockets. And if you are a business establishment, you run the risk of free, bad publicity by the local news organizations in which that business will fold or worse. Depending on the how, who, what, when, where, and why, that would also depend on if any criminal charges apply, such as a hate crime in some states.

If you think there is no risk, by the wording of your argument, you are even more naive than I take you for.,

 

there is no quota here. It is used more as a preference than a bias. Big distinction given the amount of money the SBA loans out from disaster relief loans to priorities on trying to get a small business started.

 

Yes it can. It can be for ANY reason. Check private property laws.

The only thing you can't do is tell the person you're refusing entry to them for one of those reasons .. but why would you do that anyway? You're not legally obliged to provide a reason.

 

Yes .. you CAN. Private property laws apply to private enterprises. You can refuse entry or service to anyone, at any time, for any reason. It's the same as your home.

 

BINGO!

 

Exactly .... you CAN.

Your additional point is irrelevant, because only a lunatic is actually going to tell the person they're being ejected on account of the colour of their skin (or whatever). That kind of crazy is pretty rare, so it's quite beside the point. What matters is that it's LEGAL to eject anyone, at any time, for any reason.

 

The world that Conservatives dream of, where all kinds of discrimination is legal but women get executed for having an abortion, is a truly scary place.