Russia Angrily Demands U.S. Stop Sending Weapons to Ukraine

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't care if you read it or not mate.. you wanted a definition of contamination.. posted a link twice - the purpose of which is to calculate what kind of contamination you will get with a 100 kt bomb ... or 1 megaton .. can put in what ever you like .. and will be shown once again that your silly claims outlined below are demonstrably false.

    1)You claimed the fallout would not extend past a few miles of ground zero .. 100% False
    2)You claim the radioactivity from ground burst would only last "few years - a short time" .. 100% False
    3)Your claim that 15 megatons is 150 x the contaminated area of 100 kt False
    4) Your claim that ave Russian nuke is 100 kt False
     
  2. Egoboy

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    Looks like it's happening... final decision coming this weekend, I understand...

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/finlands-leaders-said-definitely-want-110933718.html
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    True, but I've never heard of it going to a level where they would consider joining NATO, so perhaps watching a mentally deteriorating leader invade another neighbor for no valid reason was a bridge too far??

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-said-finland-joining-nato-113907025.html
     
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    Is that how The Guardian is couching it?
     
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    You are wrong

    I posted a link regarding Russian nuclear weapons that did show the overwhelming majority of Russian warheads were 100 kiloton yields, though I conceded this alone did not mean the average size of Russian nuclear warheads was 100 kilotons.

    Still the point was there and I supported it with a link to a good source.
     
  8. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why are you talking to me ? -- You got it handed to you ... got all mad .. told me not to message you .. then complained to the mods when chided for wanting to run from the playground .. now you are back for more schooling... not understanding what an average is.

    No help can I give you mate .. no cure I have ... now go and learn .. come back when you have something coherent .. can manage to cite from the links you post .. something that supports your claim.
     
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    Here's an interesting article about how Switzerland is now considering adjusting their formal definition of neutrality in response to this invasion.... Sounds like they are considering taking a role similar to what Sweden and Finland have been doing for decades.... working with NATO without actually joining...

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/analysis-neutral-switzerland-leans-closer-080322406.html
     
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    and yet you made no effort at all to defend or justify what you posted.

    Instead you whimpered about your imaginary "victory".
     
  11. Egoboy

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    This is happening folks, and we can thank Comrade Putin for it.... More security for Europe... Less security for Russia

    SNIP
    Finland's government declared a “new era” is underway as it inches closer to seeking NATO membership, hours before Sweden's governing party on Sunday backed a plan to join the trans-Atlantic alliance amid Russia's war in Ukraine.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/nato-sees-russias-war-faltering-072503079.html

    I'm pretty sure this is not what he had in what is left of his mind....
     
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    You asked me not to talk to you - then went crying to the mods - when chided for running from the playground .. now you come nipping at my heels like a love sick puppy .. in an incoherent blather going on about winning and victory and you beloved Vlad .. .

    So - in the words of Jesus - if you don't want others talking to you .. then best not to talk to others.

    But, if you do choose to talk to others - you should get a valid argument .. which would require first figuring out what an argument is.

    Your mission .. should you choose to accept - is to figure out why posting links without citation is - 1) against forum policy and 2) not an argument.
     
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    I do not believe I should be obligated to provide links to support my positions. I believe you and others should simply accept what I've posted as the truth, at face value.

    You are the one obligated to not talk to me or about me. As for me, as long as people insult me and lie about me or what I've posted, I have a direct right to retaliate.
     
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    It's an understandable reaction to Russia's aggression in bother Georgia and now Ukraine. And while I don't think it's going to happen because turkey is going to kiabosh the deal, likely will invoke a reaction from Russia.


    I find it interesting that some people on these boards can only understand reactions from Finland but not Russia. So far I'm finding both to be predictable.
     
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  15. Egoboy

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    I understand the reaction of a country that borders an unstable regime to improve their defensive posture.
    I don't understand the reaction of a country that borders a democratically governed peaceful country to invade that country to find ****ing Nazis.

    BTW, Turkish "demands" are as obviously contrived as the Nazi thing, since neither Sweden nor Finland harbors internationally recognized terrorist groups...

    Turkey is now the Joe Manchin of NATO....
     
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    I guess ignorance or an inability to see the world through a lense you disagree with?

    I also disagree with turkeys reasoning. Perhaps it's to offset the fact they helped arm Ukraine? Not sure but it feels politically motivated
     
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    Not bad... only took you 2 posts to resort to a personal attack when your "argument" is shot to hell...

    Much improvement there....
     
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    It is clear that Putin's actions have alienated Russia to the rest of the world. Their invasion was completely uncalled for and they are paying a heavy military price for it, and ironically that was supposed to be their gold bar in the world.
     
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    It's not a personal insult to acknowledge one's inability to do something. I and many others had no problem understanding putin's thought process or why he felt the way he felt. doesn't mean we agree with it. you apparently seem stumped about it.

    that's geopolitics.../shrug.
     
  20. Egoboy

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    Yeah, it was the Nazi BS that had us all stumped.. but you saw through that, didn't ya?

    Zelensky, the closet Jewish Nazi....

    Sorry to be the one to tell you this, but "understanding Putin's thought process" here is not the badge of honor you seem to think it is...
     
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    Jesus christ fella.

    The nazi bullshit was just a sell to garner favorable public opinion. You know? Something to tell his people? I'd expect a progressive to understand that reasoning since it's stolen from your "everyone is racist" playbook...ya?

    And yes. Understanding other world leaders thought process is incredibly important because like it or not...they are in power. You need to "know thy enemy"
     
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    And now, Finland has basically confirmed Turkey is just trying to get something for themselves out of the deal...

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/finnish-president-says-astonished-turkeys-183659163.html

    This is NOT the time for Turkey to be looking for pork (lol)
     
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    Delete
     
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    You asked me not to message you - because you couldnt' handle the message - yet here you are desperately seeking my attention ..nipping at my heels like a love sick puppy - thirsting for the message .. the Truth, The Way, The Light .. funny how that works .. aye mate :)
     
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    Just quit talking to me at all.

    Don't mention me or address me and I will not respond.
     

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