Is The Only Way Out Of This Mess Deflation/Depression?

Republican state governments make sure they haven't got enough money.

Maybe they have health issues, or a boss that will fire them if they don't get back to work, or kids they have to pick up, or any number of other reasons why, unlike Republicans, they don't have the LEISURE to stand in line for hours to vote.

Sure... if they are prepared to jump through enough hoops and make enough sacrifices.

Democrat: "How many hoops and sacrifices are enough??"
Republican: "More."

I can see that for you, it's all about keeping certain people in line...

 

Agreed

 

Not True, not even close. Over the last 43 years the top 10% have prospered continuously while the bottom 90% have had flat wealth growth.

 

No I'm not. You simply made that up. It is just another upward redefinition on your part.

When it's way more than in comparable but more democratic countries like Canada, Australia, Spain, Germany, Japan, the UK, etc.:

https://www.democracymatrix.com/ranking

I never said anything about the Constitution, which was written by and for white male landowners. And why do more democratic countries not need those simple and pragmatic laws, hmmmmm?

<yawn> Same upward redefinition fallacy as before. Booooooriiiiinng

In many cases the old ones were quite sufficient. Wikipedia lists dozens of documented examples (most but not all by Republicans):

"In particular, Fish v. Kobach was filed in 2016 and heard in the United States District Court for the District of Kansas in 2018 by Chief District Judge Julie A. Robinson; she had been appointed to the bench by President George W. Bush, a Republican. She found that Kobach's Documentary Proof of Citizenship law had illegally refused to accept 12.4% of new voter registration applications by US citizens while it was in effect, over 31,000 people, to protect the "integrity" of elections from the threat of votes by 39 non-citizens who had registered to vote."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States#Modern_examples

 

No, I did not. You simply made that up, like most of the rest of your claims, because you have no way of knowing if he is an immigrant or not. Maybe he is a US citizen who washed up on the banks of the Mississippi after Republicans stripped and beat him and threw him in the river to drown because he was a Democrat who wanted to vote.

Refuted above. You claimed, falsely, that no one gets BENEFITS without ID. That claim was false, like almost everything you say.

 

Another bald falsehood from you, as another poster already proved. That kind of progress ended more than 40 years ago.

No it is not, because privilege -- legal entitlements to benefit from the abrogation of others' rights -- forcibly transfers wealth from those who have earned it to the privileged. When the Joneses are the recipients of that stolen wealth, it matters very much what is happening with them.

But it is the privileged who actually do get richer.

They most certainly do. Every privilege they own legally entitles them to steal from the poor, and they take full advantage of it.

The Big Lie is that all legally obtained wealth has been earned by its possessors.

 

Because Trump-appointed Fed governors have been shoveling trillions into the pockets of the super-duper uber-rich.

 

Fast forward ten years. We'll be ready for electric cars and our "leaders" won't have the promised infrastructure ready.

 

It's not about you, fer crissake.

We should make voting as easy as possible, but make sure people are properly identified. You're great guns on properly identified, but lousy on making voting easy. A close election could be won by creating long lines at some of your opponents' supporters polling stations. Lots of tricks. You want a fair fight? How about acting like it?

 

What are you doing to make getting the ID and voting easy? All we hear from you is about IDing folks.

 

You're screwing poor people by making it harder for them to vote. Take mobile registration stations around to their communities. Have them schedule visits to community centers, schools, etc.

 

Now, what do you propose that will make it easy for everyone to obtain the necessary ID?

 

Who had a hard time voting and why is it only making it harder for poor people? The government nor the taxpayer has an obligation to drive up to your door and try and get you to register to vote. That is YOUR job, your responsibility. And if those people can get to the community center or school they can get to any other government office.

 

Why do I have to do anything about, they are widely available in my state, everyone has one that wants one and voting is just like going to the corner store. We had not problems this time or last time or the time before that or time before that or time before that...............

 

Why can't I be suppressed??????? I'm a voter like any other voter. According to the Dems moving polling places are attempts to suppress the vote and MINE WAS MOVED where can I file a civil rights violation!!!!!

 

In which of those countries can you register and then vote without an ID? In which of those countries is there mail a ballot to every know address and have them mail them back in voting?

We are not a democracy, we are a Federal Republic.

The United States of American is not a democracy and that is assured by the Constitution.

Same dodge try again

Can you point to me where the Constitution says that unless voting is absolutely effortless and insures the voter has to do NOTHING to make sure they can vote where they are trying to vote and must be coddled by the government throughout the process? That voting must be by the honor system.

NOW with this new proclaimed to be by Biden Jim Crow voting rules And we're not talking something a campaign does like robo-calls. The RULES OF THE ELECTION.

I have heard of no one who was properly registered not being able to vote, where are all these people who could not vote because they had no ID's and the polling place was too crowded or any of the other excuses you laid out. Where was turnout lower because of any new voting rules?

BTW I just did a search and find no reports of voting difficulties. If all these new laws were going to suppress the vote what happened?

 

States can do their own standards just fine, have done so since the beginning of the country. It is mainly FEDERAL JUDGES who come and unconstitutionally change the rules of the elecitons. One is trying to do it in PA where the law says any mail-in ballot SHALL be dated by the voter of the date they filled it out. Some ballots came it without dates. A FEDERAL JUDGE is changing the state law to have them counted. And there are LOTS of elections just as mine yesterday that have nothing to do with Presidents in fact FAR FAR more don't than do. The Constitution is quite clear elections are state not federal matters except for the House of the Congress there is one election day and for electors and those are there because the swearing in dates are set by the Constitution. But everything else and all other elections are state matters.

 

No, they don't. You're wrong. Some folks are falling out of the middle class.

No, I'm an economist who avoids jargon and tries to explain the economy in simple, but accurate, meaningful and actionable terms.

I gave you an example of workers markedly worse off than they were more than fifty years ago.

 

We're a constitutional federal democratic republic. Hope this helps.

What's with you, anyway? You stoop so low as to steal folks' voting rights? Make it easy to register, easy to obtain secure ID and easy to vote. We guarantee access and accuracy.

Trying to bait and deflect with your gaslighting?

Run your horse rear buddy in 2024...





Young Trump



... and you just might get beat twice.

What happened is the Orange Oaf screwed up our covid response and people showed up to vote him out.

 

No not really. We would still have inflation if Trump was president. But Trump would be blaming China or Germany or Democrats or anyone else.

 

Yes there are but obtaining government benefits is a privilege, not a right, is it.

So why do Republicans want to have only one absentee box per county? Or reduce the number of voting machines in urban areas more than in suburban areas? Or not even agree to a federal holiday for voting.

Yet at the same time, the very same republicans and modern conservatives, who state voting is a right while placing some burdens on the lower socioeconomic groups will at the same time, try to take away all the hoops for the 2a.

 

They are not free in every state. Some states make it free, but not all.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-to-vote-in-states-with-voter-id-laws/458109/

 

LOL. Because expired is expired. You aren't allowed to drive on an expired license and the majority of most places won't accept an expired ID for anything. If 99.9% of places won't, why should the voting places accept one?

 

I don't believe in too early voting. You're supposed to think about voting. When you don't have to think about it you are just a partisan one party hack.

 

There are no hoops, other than life. People already have ID's. That is NOT a hoop. Democratic areas collect taxes from their localities. If they feel the state is shortchanging them on funds to hold elections there are many options to counter it. As usual, Democrats often prefer losing and griping about it rather than actually winning. It's in their blood.