"Good guys" will not be allowed to pack heat at Trump speech. Wait.......

I don't care if you're an NRA person or not. What I care about is you calling another poster out by saying: Post 22
"I have heard their position, and I do not derive that from their position even remotely."
Yet you haven't given what their postion is. Sad

 

You are completely wrong on this. A former president is still A president; just not the current president. A president, current and former, is a target. We do not want them captured or killed. It is a declaration of war on the US. And, again, Secret Service decides safety policy where a president will be. End. Stop.

 

If you do not know where this question came from, then you have no idea as to the conversation that you jumped into, and I am then left with the question what are you arguing about? My argument is in response to him saying "By the NRA's logic if everyone had a gun the Secret Service wouldn't be necessary."

The question that I posed "I am not aware in any manner of the NRA making the claim that good guys with guns will negate the need for the police function. Are you?" is in direct response to his claim that by the NRA's logic the Secret Service would not be necessary.

See above. You really should pay more attention.

LOL....so that is what this is all about. You do realize that a cop or Secret Service Agent would fit the bill of a "good guy with a gun" do you not?

The truth is, that he did falsely put words into their mouth because a cop is in fact a "good guy with a gun"". To conclude that their belief in a good guy with a gun" negates the need for police is truly nonsensical.

Your position is 100% without merit. Yeesh. Did you really think a cop is not a "good guy with a gun"? My goodness. This is silly.

 

See above.

Your position is seriously flawed. You apparently think that a cop is not a good guy with a gun. That belief is simply not correct. Sorry to burst your bubble, but you sure did try your best. If there were a "tryers" award, you surely would be a recipient.

I cannot help but chuckle at the notion that you have been lying in wait all this time carefully trying to bait me so you can bust out that link, only to so easily and thoroughly be shot down because you did not realize that a cop constitutes a "good guy with a gun".

Did you really think that he meant that a cop cannot stop a bad guy with a gun which would be the natural extension of your reported belief in the meaning of his words? That just blows my mind that someone could derive that out of those words. It does not make any sense.

 

Benedict Donald has the option of telling them to back the phuk off.

 

No, he does not. The Secret Service has the final word on this.

Much like the ship's doctor is in charge of the captain's health, the SS is in charge of a president's safety.

 

Perhaps I made that statement because that was the subject being discussed? Shall we revisit the title of the thread?

So, do you have a spare tire in your vehicle? A bandaid in the house? And extra can of soup? It has absolutely nothing to do with paranoia. It's called taking care of one's self and not depending on someone else for it.

Your claim that my post has anything to do with Trump is hollow. Having a CCW long before Trump was a blip on anything but a business in NY/NJ, yet you claim some sort of connection between the idea that people who carry are all about Trump.

You cannot make any connection so you manufacture it? It's simple, really, if you read what is posted and not what you think you want to see.

 

This is becoming a bigger problem on the forum. It just keeps getting worse. The hardnose partisans no longer have even a modicum of interest in trying to understand team "other's" point of view.

I always try to see where everyone is coming from, because somewhere in the middle of all that, lies the truth. Not the thread to delve into this point, just wanted to say you are, in no way, alone.

 

No, your response was actually

To which I responded agreeing with you

Which is exactly what I provided in my post.
Extreme over the top claims

I thought the NRA's solution to gun violence is more guns?
If everyone at Trump's speech has one he should feel uber secure, like no worries. Cuz more guns make the world awesome, don't they?
Gun culture in the US is a sickness
the second amendment could only have been written by geniuses so obsessed with freedom that they whipped their slaves for entertainment
By the NRA's logic if everyone had a gun the SS wouldn't be necessary.
The good guys are supposed to cancel out the bad guys.

Just a bit hypocritical coming from the poster who makes comments about right wing ideology all the time.
Now you need definitions of what the left is?

Now your moving to out of context? Maybe you should read my post or learn what the definition of out of context actually means.

If you actually thought that, you would be attacking the quotes for any false claims I may have made.
But you can't do that so its on to ambiguous claims.
Par for the course on your responses. For some reason you can never actually dispute whats posted.

Just another post in desperation

Maybe if you spent as much energy commenting on the information provided instead of making up excuses as to why you can't, you could be taken more seriously.

 

He's not a prisoner of the Secret Service he can refuse their protection anytime he want's.

 

Sure, but not on a case by case basis. If he refuses SS protection, they are gone for good.

He’s not a prisoner in any way. He can go wherever he wants. The SS has a legal obligation to make any place he wants to be, as secure as possible.

Trump would be an idiot to refuse protection. He’s hated by many, and a small subset of those people want him dead. This is true for any president, really. Currently, the taxpayers are footing the bill for his protection, so why would he opt to pay for it himself? Any private security company he hires would say the same thing about the guns.

So, no, he can’t tell the SS to allow guns, unless he wants them completely out of his life.

 

Well that was for a lib so they just may be brain cell challenged.

 

So now you've gone from accusing people of personal attacks

To making personal attacks.
I guess when the content of a post is more than you can deal with, hypocrisy is always available. lol

 

The NRA is a joke, Trump is a joke and so are the Trump humpers.

 

Spoken like a well trained leftist commanded by his media. lol

 

I don't know about you but I don't want to live in a world where we allow the government to micromanage every aspect of our "safety".

Life in a free country comes with some inherent risk. There are bad things that happen in the world. It's not up to the government to try to prevent them all.

 

So can Biden. Talk about a ridiculous post. lol

 

No, he can't.

 

No, Biden cannot. It’s law.

 

You little Trump bots do as you are told, but you are not very good at overthrowing the country.

 

No, the POTUS cannot decline protection from the Secret Service.

 

Says the lefty who regurgitates his Trumpisms for years on command. lol

 

Well he's done nothing to show he's not an idiot up to this point in his life. AND if he want's to put his ass on the line his mouth created then he should refuse SS protection for this event and let the cards fall where they may.

 

Calling you a troll, IMHO, is not a personal attack, it's a statement of fact.

 

No, President Biden, as sitting President, cannot. Talk about an uniformed response.