SAMUEL ALITO’S ANTIABORTION INSPIRATION: A 17TH-CENTURY JURIST WHO SUPPORTED MARITAL

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  1. signalmankenneth

    signalmankenneth Well-Known Member

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    Hear Ye! Hear Ye! The Supreme Court justice wants to turn the U.S. into a dystopian hellscape where women are property—and he’s not stopping there.

    By now, you’ve likely heard the news that the Supreme Court is poised to overturn the national right to an abortion, an expected but nevertheless jolting, devastating blow to reproductive rights. We know The Handmaid’s Tale is about to go from scripted narrative to retroactive documentary thanks to the leak of a draft majority opinion in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, in which arch conservative justice Samuel Alito
    writes, in a hateful 98-page screed, that “Roe [v. Wade] was egregiously wrong from the start” and that it “is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people’s elected representatives.”

    Which Alito obviously knows would lead to abortion care being severely restricted or fully outlawed in roughly half of the country and make it not only a felony to perform an abortion in some states, but a felony to obtain one.


    As Slate’s Mark Joseph Stern notes, the draft—which could change before a the final ruling, as could the various justices’ votes—doesn’t just lay out the case for why Roe should be overturned, it goes full scorched earth. Alito, Stern writes, “does not seek out any middle path. He disparages Roe and its successors as dishonest, illegitimate, and destructive to the court, the country, and the Constitution. He quotes a wide range of anti-abortion activists, scholars, and judges who view abortion as immoral and barbaric; there’s even a footnote that approvingly cites Justice Clarence Thomas’s debunked theory that abortion is a tool of eugenics against Black Americans.”

    The opinion is an appalling, heinous attack on people who have relied on Roe for nearly half a century, and the most sickening part is that the conservative justice clearly doesn’t give a **** that obliterating the landmark ruling will ruin countless lives. In fact, one might argue, that’s all part of the plan.

    And if you needed further proof that Alito is pure evil and wants to take the U.S. back to a time when women’s bodies were property for men to control, know that one of the people he cited in his opinion was an English jurist who defended marital rape and had women executed for “witchcraft.”

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022...abortion-draft


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  2. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    What?!? The supreme Court didn't ban abortion it can't. That was a state issue many states will probably still have it legal.

    It's interesting that most of the states that I hear about protests then there are states where it's legal.
     
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    The SC is allowing it to be done.
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    That comment wins my hyperbole of the week award easily.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're right.

    What the Supreme Court did was strip the 4th Amendment right to privacy from half the population, and nullify their protection, via Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, against states violating those rights.

    The right brags about their love of our Constitution, and refuse to budge in any way from their beloved 2nd Amendment, so why are they okay with this?
     
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    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    The SC(r)OTUS removed a right from people who already had it.

    This is what we call "fascism". Look it up.
     
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    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    Cognitive dissonance.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's what they said a few years ago when advocates for choice expressed concern that Roe would be overturned.
     
  9. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    No it didn't it restored the tenth amendment
    With restoring the tenth amendment?
     
  10. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    No it didn't. It wasn't a right
     
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    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it was. Since 1973.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    How did it become a Right in 1973 what amendments were made to the Constitution
     
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    The supreme court, in 1973, ruled that there was a guaranteed right to abortion in the constitution. You know, the precedent that was just overturned in the face of hundreds of years of tradition and decades of reaffirmation.
     
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    well they ruled otherwise in 2022.

    You can't depend on a Court ruling obviously now you know you should have known before.
    Right the supreme Court created a ride out of whole cloth and then retracted it that's why you don't rely on the courts for rights they're supposed to defend the Constitution not create it
     
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    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    Obviously the supreme court is no longer the reliable, honest, and dependable institution it once was. That's what happens when you lower the standards for admission.
     
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    what because they removed the law that violated the 10th amendment? That's what they're supposed to do.
    I think you're just mad cuz you didn't get your way and you shouldn't it was a bad ruling
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    My comment wasn't aimed at comments made years ago. It was aimed at the comment I quoted in my post.
     
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    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So can I count on you to stand up to those who want to remove the rights contained in the 2nd? And you agree that those who oppose the 2nd are fascists?

    The right to keep and bear arms - You know, the precedent that has existed for hundreds of years of tradition and decades of reaffirmation.
     
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  19. Gateman_Wen

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    A "bad ruling" that lasted 50 years and was reaffirmed over and over during that time?

    Utter bullshit.
     
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    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    Sure, bring on the militia! I'll join right now!
     
  21. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Violated the tenth amendment
     
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    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    That's some seriously flimsy reasoning and you know it.
     
  23. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    No. It wasn't listed in the Constitution as a protection. The tenth amendment states that which isn't delegated to federal powers is up to the states.

    That's not flimsy it's solid rock
     
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    The tyranny of the minority will (30%) on the majority of citizens.
     
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    Flimsy as ****. By that logic nearly everything is unconstitutional.
     

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