Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. Silver Surfer

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    The leaders of the western world cannot solve our economic problems so I am afraid they are signalling and preparing us for the world war. The elites will manipulate masses once again and get away with their utter incompetence. By forcing us to a war they get to keep their power and the money History keeps repeating itself.
     
  2. Jack Hays

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    The BBC doesn't agree (it's in the link). I'll take BBC's word over lying Russian propaganda.
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    I'm surprised that you don't know that the BBC is the government mouthpiece when it comes to a foreign policy. The BBC is by financed the government. That's why we have tp pay a TV licence fee. Extortion!
     
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    Jack, the Ukrainians have a video of the blast site at the industrial plant. Have you seen it? From the damage there, it's obvious that, if such a missile had hit the shopping center, it simply would not exist. Instead, what you see there is a fire, not the site of a missile hit.
     
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    BBC:
    ". . . Matching the exact spots where the two missiles land in the CCTV video with aerial images of the area, it appears one missile hit close to the eastern end of the shopping centre, while the other struck the northern end of the factory, near the southern edge of the pond.
    The factory mentioned by the Russian defence ministry is located roughly 300 metres north of the shopping centre. The buildings are separated by a wall, vegetation and rail tracks, making the claim that "secondary explosions" caused a large fire with multiple casualties in the shopping centre unlikely. . . ."
     
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    It's a helluva thing to pay for the privilege of being lied to.
     
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    It never does. Lucky for us, the Ukrop government always exaggerates way too much. 1,000 shoppers in a mall with maybe 100 cars (at most) in the parking lot?

    It's just collateral damage from the blast. If the Ukies gave a damn about their people, they'd quit trying to hide weapons depots next to shopping malls.
     
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    One cannot match the exact spots where the missiles landed from tbe video. That is total bs.

    You still haven't reconciled how that rather small shopping center could have been hit and still remain standing. The cctv video does give a good idea of just how massive the explosion was at that factory. No way that shopping center could have survived in any form after a blast like that.

    Also, had that shopping center been directly hit by such a blast and had it been crowded with over 1,000 people, the casualties would have been near 100%. Yet we only saw one fire engine, zero ambulances and only a few people milling about outside.

    Other than that, totally believable!!
     
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    It was just the outrage of the day manufactured for the G7 meeting in Germany. Then it gets amplified throughout the Western press for the simple minds that don't have two neurons to rub together. Then it gets quickly forgotten and on to the next outrage.

    If this had any legs whatsoever, it would be brought up at the UN. Guaranteed it never sees the light of day there.
     
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    If the Ruscists cared about human lives, they would halt their invasion of Ukraine and retreat already.
     
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    Ukrainian video of Russian strike on Kredmash vehicle plant.

     
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    Now you're just denying. That's a small victory for the truth, I suppose. The evidence of a Russian war crime is incontrovertible.
     
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    Rather than accuse me of denying something, perhaps you could show how a view of the lake from those cameras could determine exactly where those missiles landed hundreds of meters away. Neither the factory nor the shopping center are visible. All that is seen is a flash from the blast.
     
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    Easily done with the right computers (and a probable assist from overhead coverage).
     
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    I don't have to explain anything. The facts are plain and you're out on a limb defending Russian lies. The BBC fact check ends the debate.
     
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    You won't because you can't. I'm done with you.
     
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    Of course you are.
     
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    Russia bans Biden's wife, daughter from entry
    Russia on Tuesday announced that it was banning the wife and daughter of President Joe Biden from entering the country, in response to widening sanctions against Russia

    MOSCOW -- Russia on Tuesday announced that it was banning the wife and daughter of President Joe Biden from entering the country, in response to widening sanctions against Russia.

    The Foreign Ministry said 25 names were being added to the country's “stop list” including Biden's wife Jill and daughter Ashley.

    It also banned entry to four senators whom it identified as “responsible for the formation of the (U.S.) Russophobic course:” Republicans Mitch McConnell, Susan Collins and Ben Sasse and Democrat Kirstin Gillibrand.

    ... https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russia-bans-bidens-wife-daughter-entry-85841744

    They all must be absolutely crestfallen. Of course, Russia will never ban a Trump from entering ;)
     
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    That's because they're all super scared of him.
     
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    Biden's wife, daughter; McConnell, Collins, Sasse and Gillibrand.

    If anything, Russia is damn good at spotting turds.
     
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    You're right about that. They spotted Trump and used him to great effect.
     
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    good read that...nice post!
     
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    It isn't just Russian propaganda that fits this description. There is very little news reported today at the Cronkite level. It doesn't matter what country or which side of the political aisle it comes from.
     
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