Should Trump go to Prison?

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Should Trump go to Prison

  1. Yes

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    42.7%
  2. No

    47 vote(s)
    57.3%
  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    I'm simply pointing out the fact that you are totally unable to support your accusations!
     
  2. chris155au

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    The calls to prosecute him for which crime exactly?
     
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    Well?
     
  4. HereWeGoAgain

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    Big day tomorrow.

    Every day it looks more and more like trump is going to prison.
     
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    onald Trump must be prosecuted and banned from running for another term as president for inciting the insurrection on January 6 in order to "preserve the republic," according to a legal expert.

    Laurence Tribe, professor emeritus of constitutional law at Harvard University, suggested that it will not be enough if the former president is criminally charged over his role in the Capitol attack while citing testimony from Judge J. Michael Luttig at the House Select Committee's hearing describing Trump as a "clear and present danger" to democracy.

    Writing in the Los Angeles Times, Tribe also suggested that Trump should also be banned from trying to become president again as there is enough evidence he violated Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
    https://www.newsweek.com/prosecute-donald-trump-jan6-insurrection-laurence-tribe-1717371
     
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    In a powerful warning Thursday, the patron saint of the conservative legal movement, former federal appellate Judge J. Michael Luttig, testified before the Jan. 6 Committee and pronounced former President Trump and his allies a “clear and present danger” to American constitutional democracy. As Luttig knows better than most, this historic phrase generates an extraordinary constitutional power of government to act — and a duty to do so.

    Luttig’s verdict should be understood as a plea for Atty. Gen. Merrick Garland to proceed toward charging Trump with federal crimes that the public record now amply establishes. Only then will this nation be able to move forward from the ongoing insurrection.
    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/sto...urrection-prosecution-donald-trump-reelection
     
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    Other than you missing the point, your grasp of history is slightly off. The Confederates started the war. Lincoln decisively ended it.

    https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minute/Civil_War_Begins.htm

     
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    This is a Republican who voted for trump, twice.

    Arizona lawmaker Rusty Bowers details the pressure put on him by Trump and Giuliani

    "You are asking me to do something against my oath, and I will not break my oath," he said he told Trump and Giuliani, to which the former New York mayor said: "Aren't we all Republicans here? I would think we'd get a better reception."

    "His suggestion was that we would do it, and I said I can't," Bowers said, adding that Eastman pressured him by telling him to "just do it and let the courts sort it out."..
    https://www.npr.org/2022/06/21/1106413341/arizona-lawmaker-rusty-bowers-pressure-giuliani
     
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    Inciting an insurrection? Funny, I could've sworn that he ordered his crowd to be peaceful.
     
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    And again, this is a delay to explore legal alternatives, not a coup, nothing Al Gore didn't do.
     
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    Hmmm, they called for an unscheduled hearing tomorrow due to new evidence that has come to light.
     
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    There's a metric **** load here that Gore didn't do. All Gore requested was a recount, which he didn't ultimately get and he conceded after it was denied. Gore, for all of his many, many, many faults didn't do a fraction of what these maniacs pushed for.
     
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    Yes, Gore thought there was malpractice and a re-examination of the votes might change the result, same as Trump, the 2 sides fought it out in the courts same as Trump. Gore actually conceded at first and then changed his mind and went after Bush.
     
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    Not remotely the same as Trump. All Gore wanted was a recount. He didn't get it. Trump got all of the recounts he officially requested. This isn't remotely the same.

    Did Gore argue that ENTIRE STATES should be eliminated from the EC count? No. Trump did.
    Did Gore pressure the DOJ to help him overturn the results? No. Trump did.
    Did Gore engage in fake elector plots? No. Trump did.
    Did Gore pressure legislators to reverse the results? No. Trump did.
    Did Gore pressure governors to reverse the results? No. Trump did.
    Did Gore pressure state election officials to reverse the results? No. Trump did.
    I can keep going if you want.

    The Eastman memo proves that Trump didn't just want a "re-examination of the votes." He wanted the votes of 5 ENTIRE ****ING STATES to be COMPLETELY ****ING IGNORED.
     
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    No the principle is the same, Gore challenged the result as did Trump for slightly different reasons, for Gore it was just Florida whilst Trump it was more a national thing. The Eastman memo proves no such thing, just that Trump thought he had been cheated and tried to delay the result until it could be legally challenged, no "reversing results" or overturning them or any such nonsense.
     
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    Trump attempted to lead an armed mob to the capitol during the insurrection.

    Will that change any votes? LOL!
     
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    No, Trump should not go to prison, how should he run for 2024 otherwise?
     
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    He did? When was this? Was he at the Capitol? Were they armed? Didn't he tell them to "Peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard?".
     
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    No, he didn't "challenge the result as did Trump." Gore didn't do anything remotely close to what Trump did. Not even close. And, yes, the Eastman memo (which you refuse to read) proves that. Yes, if his plot had worked, it would have reversed the results of the election. Do you need to be walked through this one bullet point at a time? I can do that if you give me your word that you will actually respond. Do I have your word on that?
     
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    He should, yes. Looks like DOJ might actually do its job, too, so just maybe it will happen. I won't hold my breath, though.

    Incidentally, the results of the poll so far show that this forum is wildly biased toward the Wrong. This is from the real world:

    Poll: Most voters think Trump should be convicted, barred from running for office

    By Daniel Payne
    02/08/2021 01:33 PM EST

    A majority of voters say that former President Donald Trump should be convicted during his impeachment trial and barred from running for public office in the future, according to a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll released on Monday.

    The newest poll found that 54 percent of registered voters “somewhat” or “strongly” agreed that Trump should be convicted on a charge of inciting an insurrection at the U.S. Capitol last month. Even more — 58 percent — say he should either “probably” or “definitely” be barred from running for public office in the future. The Senate trial begins on Tuesday.

    ... https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/08/voters-trump-should-be-convicted-467334
     
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    Yes he did, both challenged an election result and fought for time to have legal cases argued that might give them an advantage. Gore just gave up before Trump did. I did read it and it changes NOTHING. You're seeing what you want to see, not what actually exists.

    It's not going to happen, this is just the DNC trying to keep it in the news to affect the elections, there is nothing there and they know it. As for polls, well, the polls said Hilary was going to walk it?
     

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