The January 6 Hearings are ONLY for Legislative Purposes!

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's amazing how many people are confused about the January 6 Committee Hearings. Some are confusing it with an Impeachment, others with a criminal investigation,... there are even some who appear to think it's a trial.

    It's NONE of those!!!

    And they come out talking about cross examination, witnesses, due process, ...

    Allow me to explain the basics of a Congressional Hearing. The ONLY purpose of a hearing like this one is to obtain information that would help determine if legislation needs to be enacted so that something like this doesn't happen in the future. This is called "Legislative Purposes".

    I know many Trump supporters might be stressed out because the hearings, while following their "legislative purposes", has uncovered multiple crimes committed by Trump and his minions. But that, even though it was expected, technically speaking is purely coincidental.

    Yes! It's now obvious that Trump, and many of his subordinates, committed many crimes. That they promoted an insurrection, that they attempted to defraud the United States, that they attempted to impede a democratic process, and (the latest revelation) that they did this by KNOWINGLY promoting violent means.

    But "dure process" here only means that witnesses are invited. If they decline the invitation, that they can be subpoenaed, and that when they come, they can plead the 5th if they feel that they might be accused of a crime.

    Cross examination, defense attorneys... a jury... those will come later, when the DoJ decides to prosecute. And, of course, the evidence we have seen is very damning. So you SHOULD be worried about the chances of your party leader being locked up at some point. But that's up to the courts. Not to the January 6 Committee.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That may be what it is supposed to be, but that is not what the democrats are using it for.

    They are using it to ensure that Trump does not run again in 2024. As a side issue, they want to make sure the republicans in general are hurt by the process.

    By omitting cross examination, defense attorneys, they are biasing the hearings in their favor. They are not looking for facts. They are looking for political advantage.
     
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    We all know what political show trials are for, sport. No one needs your "explanations"....
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're correct of course, and every time we hear the Demokrats bleat "This isn't a trial!" or "This is only for legislative purposes!", it's their way of saying

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    "We don't need no stinkin' facts!!"

    It's the usual Alinskyite trash, served up for TDS Sufferers and credulous partisan saps - all they need is the accusation.
     
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    "Legislative Purposes". would be stuff like the communications between the Capitol Police and overseers Pelosi and her ilk to find out why January 6 was allowed to happen because of a weak security after forewarning and 10,000 guard that were authorized by Trump... So it will never be allowed to happen again..
    Strange how a police force with a budget as big as most cities didn't seem to have enough equipment, personnel, or training.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it's strange, alright.

    I've attended demonstrations in Washington where there were thousands of demonstrators and counter-demonstrators and not once did the DC and Capitol Police ALLOW things to get out of hand.

    Maybe after the midterms a committee will get to the bottom of that....
     
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    It doesn't matter what they use it for. It matter what they ARE. This is the part that has many Republicans confused.

    And, clearly, once the facts show that Trump committed a crime, they WILL use it against him. Would you expect anything different?
     
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    Republicans are not confused. They recognize a political agenda.
    Trump may have committed a crime. On the other hand, he may not have committed a crime. Without any cross examination, it is only a one sided hit job.
     
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    "once the facts show"... after 5 years ad we are still looking for those facts??...
    Lavrentiy Beria, head of Joseph Stalin's secret police in the old Soviet Union, supposedly said, "Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime."... but that was in a communist country and that definitely applies here in our communist country..
     
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    Think of what a proper cross-examination of Cassidy Hutchinson would have produced and how much it would have saved in tax payer dollars for chasing another witch hunt.
     
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    Who's Pelosi? I don't see anybody by that name in the list of overseers.

    Here's the list....

    Capitol Police Board
    Karen H. Gibson, United States Senate Sergeant at Arms (Member)
    William J. Walker, U.S. House of Representatives Sergeant at Arms (Chair)
    J. Brett Blanton, Architect of the Capitol (Member)
    J. Thomas Manger, Chief of Police (Ex-Officio Member)


    Congressional Committees

    Appropriations Committees
    House Committee on Appropriations, Subcommittee on Legislative Branch
    Chairman: Tim Ryan (Ohio)
    Ranking Member: Jaime Herrera Beutler (Washington)
    Senate Committee on Appropriations, Subcommittee on Legislative Branch
    Chairman: Jack Reed (Rhode Island)
    Ranking Member: Mike Braun (Indiana)

    Authorizing Committees
    Committee on House Administration
    Chairperson: Zoe Lofgren (California)
    Ranking Member: Rodney Davis (Illinois)
    Senate Committee on Rules and Administration
    Chairwoman: Amy Klobuchar (Minnesota)
    Ranking Member: Roy Blunt (Missouri)
     
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    This whole legislative process is to determine the FACTS. What facts are you trying to claim that Democrats don't need?

    A bunch of people on your team beat up hundreds of cops and threatened our VP and Speaker of the House because Trump lied about widespread election fraud and Pence's authority regarding the certification. Those are indisputable FACTS. If your side was concerned with them, nobody would be mob attacking people based on lies. Trump, et al. has NEVER once presented an ounce of evidence of fraud, let alone, widespread election fraud.

    Maybe you shouldn't be throwing stones on that point. Facts are clearly not of interests to any of you.
     
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    Yeah, and the moon is made of green cheese.
     
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    It's nothing but a political dog-n-pony show designed to hurt Trump's chances of getting elected should he run in '24.
     
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    Explain the "legislative purpose", with some degree of detail.
     
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    The whole SHOW TRIAL is for SHOW. As was the case during the Kavanaugh hearings, the Democrats aren't interested in facts.

    Not that you're interested, but here are a few facts for you:

    1) The Trumpeteers who broke the law on 1/6 aren't on my team. They're on their own team.

    2) I've attended numerous demonstrations and counter-demonstrations in Washington DC, and when my team exercises its First Amendment rights, it obeys the law and respects the law enforcement personnel who are there to ensure that everyone gets to exercise their rights in a free and safe manner. We obtain our permits from the local authorities and we peacefully and lawfully demonstrate where our permits tell us we can demonstrate. We don't pull this sh*t:

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    We don't riot, we don't attack people, we don't destroy public and private property and we don't cheer it and make excuses for it like the hypocrites and frauds on your side did.

    And for what?

    The LIE that George Floyd was killed on account of his skin color - a fabrication that was never even a factor in the trial of the officer who killed him.

    You can throw all the stones you want from your little glass houses but it's clear that your side has NEVER been interested in facts at all. They didn't interest you during the Kavanaugh hearings, they didn't interest you during the Summer of LW Terrorism and they don't interest you now.
     
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    Lol these clowns will never prosecute. That’s why they’re having this sham of a committee on national tv lol.

    They’re incapable of producing evidence that would hold up in court against cross examination and rebuttal and they know it. So instead they engage in this charade hoping to change the public perception.

    But the fact they’ve already canceled meetings going forward shows how much of a disaster this is in ratings for them.

    Y’all keep these up. I want as many of these little committee hearings as you’ll give us.
     
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    You seem to be struggling with selective memory and historical revisionism. It's a known side-effect of worshipping a psychopath.

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    lol let me ask y’all a question

    If this committee had ACTIONABLE evidence which could be used in a criminal trial… would Garland need to “follow it closely” on tv? Or would he already have it on his desk and starting criminal proceedings?

    LoL I’m going to laugh at you all the way to the end of this disaster for the Dems lol The ONLY thing that’s going to come out of this is that Garland is gonna get lambasted for not bringing charges lol

    It’s going to be SO hilarious
     
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    You seem to be projecting.

    You may be struggling with selective memory and historical revisionism but I'm not, and I don't worship any man.

    BTW, you can post all of the pictures of the Jan. 6 Trumpeteers you want. I'm not a Trumpeteer, I wasn't there and I didn't cheer them on.
     
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    that was the view when the constitution was written, and good thing that common knowledge was not written into it
     
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    It appears to primarily be a propaganda show that very few Americans are interested in paying any attention to...
     
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    Everyone knows that the "hearings" are just a political show trial -- a witch hunt.

    DICTIONARY.COM, show trial

    noun

    (especially in a totalitarian state) the public trial of a political offender conducted chiefly for propagandistic purposes, as to suppress further dissent against the government by making an example of the accused.
    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/show-trial
     
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    It takes a fair hearing with fundamental due process to discover "FACTS".

    Anything less is just a cover-up and a distraction -- a show trial/witch hunt.
     
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    You are thinking very very small. Getting elected or not is the least of Trump's problems. Staying out of prison is his problem. And that now seems ver unlikely.
     
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