Fox News GOP Lawyer/Legal analyst says Trump will be prosecuted

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  1. MJ Davies

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    Cheney and Hutchison have more than all the so-called "men" racing to Florida to drop to their knees for the Orange Stain. Too bad their party thinks so little of women. They could formidable opponents in some dream team if the Bone Spurs and Tiny Hands' worshippers get off their knees and stand up for what they claim.
     
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  2. Patricio Da Silva

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    I'm not sure I understand the question.
     
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    Your position seems to be that whatever transpired between Trump and his attorneys should be a blight on the attorneys' careers if not outright lead to disbarment.

    My perspective is whatever has happened thus far has kept Trump out of prison so other slimy monsters with no redeemable qualities that enjoy lying and fleecing people would see those legal maneuvers as something positive thereby leading them to more future clients, not less.

    Yes, they should be disbarred and probably convicted but we can clearly see that more than a handful of people are totally cool with some people breaking all kinds of moral, ethical codes and laws so that's not the reality we are facing at the moment.
     
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    Well, maybe they were planning their attack further down the road, not at the ellipse, but at the capitol, but wanted to hear pep talk from Trump, to get them in the frenzied state of mind necessary to do the attack. Who the **** knows and why does it matter? Just take the damn guns away from those in possession of them, as they were illegal in DC.

    Look, when there are armed people around the president or the capitol, the default is to assume the worst and confiscate guns. No guns should be allowed anywhere near the capital or the president for any reason,

    And no second amendment crap, it doesn't prevent regulation.

    And now we got a 6/3 conservative court shooting down a century old law banning guns in DC. That's just what our government needs, people near the government armed to the teeth. This court has gone stark raving mad and has lost it's legitimacy.
    No, the alarm goes off and guns are confiscated, law abiding or not.
     
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    The analogy still works.
     
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    yes, Trump is a threat to democracy
     
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    I do not recall saying that, but that is true IF
    1. They do not come forward and testify on Trump, such as pleading the 5th
    2. If they do testify I would support immunity for full cooperation. But time is running out for that trade.
    3. If they do #2, I would support a temporary suspension, but not a full disbarment
    4. If they do not cooperate, then yes, they deserve disbarment and prosecution. And that is more generous than what they did for John Dean.
    Those who are mesmerized by Trump are fools and have drunk the Trump kool aid. Trump could lay a turd the size of Manhattan and they would not be able to smell it.

    And that is a sad statement on America. There are similar foolish groups in other western nations, but I don't believe it is as bad as it is here.
     
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    I’ll ask you again. If they had actionable criminal charges they could lay on trump do you think that evidence wouldn’t already be on Garlands desk and we would already be having criminal charges brought?

    You do understand you’re being played? There will be no criminal charges against trump from this. Not only have they already tainted impartiality on the case by this prime time absurdity, making it an IMPOSSIBILITY to bring this for criminal charges, but they’ve already shown their hand. They got nothing. Hence why we are having to endure this charade until their ratings finish tanking.

    You’re being played. There will be no criminal charges against Trump for this. Within two months you’ll be screaming for Garlands head for not bringing criminal charges.
     
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    Oh boy this is it.... You guys really got him where you want him this time....

    It will be different than the first 8367 times....

    Just wait this one's the kicker!!!
     
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    If Repubs had stopped their adoring sycophancy of him once details of the attempted coup came out, or if Repub senators had voted according to the evidence and not their own political prospects in the impeachment proceedings, we wouldn't need to be concerned about his continued efforts to tear down our democracy.
     
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    You know what..I was watching Happy Gilmore the other day, and Shooter Mcgavin had this abject fear of Adam Sandler for some reason...It was because Adam Sandler was natural talent, and with work he could surpass Mcgavens raw training. This upset Shooter Mcgaven obviously, so he sabotaged Adam Sandlers character all the way to out right having him hit by a car on the golf course....
    The point is this isnt the case in this situation.

    This is just presenting evidence internationally, and you getting subject to the same commercials over and over again. Rationally getting annoyed because it goes against your narrative, but unfortunately for Trump supporters its necessary to nullify the propaganda Trump and the Russians are so good at.

    Facts and Evidence speak for themselves. They are merely being presented on the international stage. If you are getting annoyed don't be alarmed, it only indicates you are still sane.
     
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    So you don't know if you'll ever get over your fixation/obsession with Trump.
     
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    You kidding me? This is the funnest they've had beating a dead horse in forever. This dead horse will never not be beaten, even if he were to all of sudden have a heart attack/stroke and pass out.(Not that unlikely, given his condition, his lifestyle and his age.)
     
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    There's always Trump's children for them to beat up on. This might be the one time the left gets religious wanting to visit the sins of the father onto the children and claim they finally agree with religious people.
     
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    And wanna know the most laughable thing? "You're a Trumper". No, they need to stop lumping me(and others who think like me) with themselves as dead horse beaters. I could care less. Charge him, don't charge him who cares! We have an oil shortage, a supply chain crisis, inflation etc and there's still those who're thinking about a former ex POTUS.

    They are the reason the Republic stands on one knee, their political ignorance and willing malfeasance
     
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    The Dems can't run on their achievements for the People, so they're running on smearing Trump and anyone associated with him. Last time I looked most of the candidates he's supporting are winning in the primaries. The propaganda game the dems are playing is losing. Can't wait to see the full meltdown of the left after the midterms.
     
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    So did
    House members
    Adam Kinzinger of Illinois
    Tom Rice of South Carolina
    John Katko of New York
    Maria Salazar of Florida
    Chris Jacobs of New York
    Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania
    Peter Meijer of Michigan
    Fred Upton of Michigan
    Tony Gonzales of Texas
    Steve Chabot of Ohio
    Mike Turner of Ohio
    David Joyce of Ohio
    Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio
    And senators
    Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, Senate minority leader
    Roy Blunt of Missouri
    Richard Burr of North Carolina
    Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia
    Bill Cassidy of Louisiana
    Susan Collins of Maine
    John Cornyn of Texas
    Joni Ernst of Iowa
    Lindsey Graham of South Carolina
    Lisa Murkowski of Alaska
    Rob Portman of Ohio
    Mitt Romney of Utah
    Thom Tillis of North Carolina
    Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania
    Todd Young of Indiana

    Those are some of tRump's biggest supporters. Hell, Lindsey follows him around with his tongue hanging out just in case he needs to go to the bathroom.

    Are they all RINOs too?
     
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    I really like the GOP platform. Nothing.
     
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    If you want to know what the GOP platform is just consider what Biden got rid of within the first 100 days of his time in office. We're seeing the results of "Build back better" every time we fill up our cars with gas to drive to the stores where we can pay up to 50% more for basic necessities. But we have the "Liberal World Order" to look forward to.
     
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    I’m not upset at all. In fact I’m of the opinion this is the best thing that could happen for trump.

    How you folks don’t realize you’re turning Trump and the Republicans into living martyrs I’ll never know but you’re making Trump FAR more dangerous than he would be if you didn’t have this committee lol

    Keep it up. Strike him down and he shall become more powerful than you could ever possibly imagine. And that is NOT hyperbole.
     
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    No not all of them. But many, many of them are. She just happens to be one of the ones who did. In fact I would say the vast majority of those are rino’s

    Tillis, Romney, Murkowski, Rice, Kinzinger, Cheney… that list is FULL of rinos.
     
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    No, we're not. We're seeing what happens when one party wants to govern, and the other wants to obfuscate. And follows the orders of a fat orange stain who pursues lies and self-dealing instead of his country's interests.

    Here's why inflation is spiking. And, no, it's not "Biden---Bllaaaaargh!" And the Build Back Better Act didn't even pass, so it's difficult to understand your claim on that issue. You need to do a better job of understanding economics and following the news.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/27/inflation-blame-game-sorting-out-the-culprits-00035712

    Spoiler alert: There are no single villains. And it’s all quite complicated.

    `Putin’s price hike’

    Biden and Democrats say high prices are largely a result of Russian President Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, which has sent oil and food prices soaring.

    “Inflation is still too high and Putin’s price hike continues to impact food and energy prices,” Biden said on Friday in a statement after the latest numbers were released. “There is more work to do, and tackling inflation is my top economic priority.”

    Biden is correct that the invasion rocked the oil market and contributed to higher inflation the past two months. But prices began rising sharply well before Putin shocked the world and attacked Ukraine in late February.


    pandemic low of 0.1 percent in May 2020 even as both the Fed and Congress began pouring trillions into the economy and the central bank kept interest rates at historic lows. But as soon as some Covid restrictions began to lift in the summer of that year, inflation began to rise, picking up strength in February 2021. The Consumer Price Index, the better-known inflation gauge, hit 7.5 percent in January of this year. It was at 8.3 percent in April over the previous year.

    Biden was also correct that energy costs comporised nearly 70 percent of the monthly increase in inflation from February to March of this year as markets reacted to the war. But many thought Biden was saying 70 percent of inflation over the past year stemmed from the war. That is not the case. Even after taking out the energy hit, the annual rate in March would have been over 7 percent, still easily wiping out wage gains running around 5 percent. So-called core inflation was at 6.2 percent in April.

    Wendy Edelberg, director of The Hamilton Project and a senior fellow in Economic Studies at the Brookings Institution, said the war certainly contributed to recent inflation, further damaging supply chains and driving up energy prices, but not the way Biden described it.

    “The truth is, consumer demand fell off a cliff in the spring of 2020 as the virus hit and as it rebounded, it was inevitably going to be messy,” she said. “But the ingredients for why the economy has been as strong as it has and the incredibly robust way that demand bounded back ahead of supply completely surprised me.”

    `Biden-flation’

    Republicans are hammering Democrats on the midterm campaign trail for what they like to call “Biden-flation,” attributing the sharp spike in prices to overly generous stimulus that fattened consumer wallets during the pandemic and discouraged them from going back to work. It’s clearly having an impact, with polls showing dismal ratings for Biden’s stewardship of the economy.

    The debate continues to rage over the full impact of Biden’s $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan, passed in March 2021 with only Democratic votes. And economists say Republicans are probably right that at least some of the rise in inflation comes from the plan’s $1,400 in direct payments to qualifying Americans and an extension of enhanced unemployment benefits and child care tax credits through September of last year.

    That injection of cash into the economy came after the roughly $4 trillion in emergency Covid relief passed under the Trump administration. Sorting out exactly how much inflation resulted from the additional stimulus is challenging,according to a San Francisco Fed study, indicating that the extra spending played some role in speeding up inflation. Other advanced economies faced similar problems with supply chain disruptions and supply and demand mismatches. But the U.S. has it worse on inflation. Inflation in the Eurozone spiked to 7.4 percent in April, still below the U.S. but elevated by a big spike in energy costs following the Ukraine invasion. It was 5.9 percent in February.

    “This was the largest fiscal and monetary response in history and that’s great, but elements of how it was delivered weren’t the best and we probably overdid it,” Brett Ryan, senior U.S. economist at Deutsche Bank, said of the U.S. “From one perspective, all the spending worked, [and] we bounced back very fast. But all those stimulus checks pushed demand up very fast and left already strained supply chains even further behind the curve.”

    Did the Fed blow it?

    The Fed is the chief inflation-fighting authority in the U.S., so it naturally comes under heavy scrutiny when prices spin dramatically higher. The central bank’s mandate, after all, is to keep inflation low – its target is about 2 percent – while also promoting full employment.

    So did Fed Chair Jerome Powell and his colleagues blow it by keeping interest rates low for so long and continuing to support the economy through hundreds of billions of dollars in asset purchases? Can we just blame all of it on the Fed, as some economists and Wall Street traders do?

    Not all of it, economists say, but some fault clearly lies with the central bank.

    Powell was a chief proponent early on of the idea that the price hikes would be “transitory” and ease more quickly as supply chain problems got fixed and more people went back to work. Biden and the White House adopted that term as well before having to ditch it.

    Because inflation has turned out to be longer lasting, the Fed had to quickly shift gears in December and say it would pull back its highly stimulative policies. Uncertainty over just how far and fast the Fed will have to move created huge volatility and large losses for stocks this year.

    “The Fed is now so far behind on inflation that people are getting worried about the consumer,” said Jim Paulsen, chief economist at the Leuthold Group.

    Central bank defenders say Powell faced a near-impossible task. He has endured tremendous, bipartisan pressure to keep rates low to boost the economy – including from then-President Donald Trump, long before the pandemic – making a much earlier pivot to tighter policy difficult. And just how much of a game-changer an earlier move would have been is not clear.

    “If you had perfect hindsight you’d go back and it probably would have been better for us to have raised rates a little sooner,” Powell said in a Marketplace interview earlier this month. “I’m not sure how much difference it would have made, but we have to make decisions in real time, based on what we know then, and we did the best we could. Now, we see the picture clearly and we’re determined to use our tools to get us back to price stability.”
     
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    While I agree with what Mr. McCarthy (the attorney, from the clip), assessed, about Trump's intentions, or hopes, I have been skeptical of our AG Garland, trying to prove that case, without airtight evidence (which, of course, is difficult to obtain when a crime is dependent upon another's thoughts, or beliefs). Your own citing of Trump's objectively provable offense, then, is significant. Here, though, I think the ambiguousness is whether a President's failure to fulfill his duty, is an undisputable criminal felony. It certainly is a cause for Congressional action, such as impeachment, but...
     
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    *sigh* Nothing worse than a long ass bs post than one that entirely consists of someone else's opinion. Next time you want to respond to me use your own damn words.
     
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    What is a Ron DiInsanes :wierdface:
     
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