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Ruger loves his stereotypes. According to him there isn't numerous genres of rap but only one, gangsta rap.

 

Iagree, look at all the wars whites started on these continents and how they try to enforce their culture of homosexuality and pedophilia onto Muslim and Christian communities in Africa and around the world.

 

Because I don't speak Spanish.

 

1) In civilised places that is called voting.
2) What government forced oppression? OH you means like January 6th. when the outgoing President who rather likes less gun control, knew the mob were armed and encouraged them to prevent the constitutional process of peaceful exchange of power. That was taken care of by the security properly trained and I very much doubt there will be a repetition.
Why are you so paranoid of a government "taking over" your country? It simply cannot happen post WW2. It would start a WW 3. How on earth is any government going to convince all three branches of the US military to "take over the country" and oppress it?
What is the name of that video game you like playing?

 

If that is the case, then it is all the more imperative that Americans insist on far better policing.
The latest report on the Uvalde slaughter says that the police stood in the hallway of the school of 77 minutes.
WTF??

 

OK.
Tens of thousands. Does that make you feel better?
So far this year it is 23,000 for the first six months.

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org

Roughly the same number of American casualties on D Day.


Which of course does nothing to change the fact that there were over 400,000 gun related incidents in 2011.

 

And there's the link, thank you.

 

And denial that you were responding to the wrong poster, with incorrect information, will just be ignored.

Doubling down is the brazen way to go, I'll give you that, but the fail is epic.

 

You omitted suicides, accidental deaths and injuries. This l8nkcdoesvnotcspeak of gunvrelatedcINCIDENTS. They are not comparable.
I spoke of gun related INCIDENTS. Including threats involving à gun.
It might help to think about what you read.incidents are not deaths.

Finally it was you who demanded I find the source of my 400,000 plus such incidents.
However even if you deny it, it has been an interesting voyage into your psyche and your desperate attempts to justify the legitimacy of it.
All your legal and moral and practical arguments have failed . There is nothing your guns do that cannot be done non lethally.
And I have been surprised at the pathetic state of your policing, exemplified by 77 minutes of utter inactivity in a primary school held hostage by a déranged nutter with an AK47.
Your energy should be directed towards demanding proper public protection, and not playing John Wayne and happily shooting at and potentially killing someone stealing your insured tractor.
Would you shoot at à 10 and 14 year old doing that? And then tell me a 73 year old man should have shot at à 10 and 14 year old ?
Or is it as I suspect...you dont care.
The Journey to sociopathology begins with one step.

 

And you still have the wrong poster. How deep do you want to dig your hole?

 

Voting is an act of free men and that requires defense from time to time.

 

Yes.

 

I am not going back pages.
You insisted I proved my assertion.
I did.
You didnt like it so started to change what I said.
While never expressing regret at tens of thousands of DEAD people every year.
You really are missing something human.
And since you can't sustain any argument un favour of guns, and have to rely on such pathetic and irrelevant issues, I am assuming you have nothing else to say.
So I am moving on.

 

Really?
When?
I doubt à tyrant would pay much attention to votes. He would try to change them, wouldn't he?

 

No, I had nothing to do with your erroneous numbers. Someone else called you on it, and right they were to do so.

I didn't change what you said, that was your attempt at dodging how far off the mark you were. You can't sustain an argument against something that is a Right in this country, just because you don't have the same Right in your country, and your numbers that you attempt to use are incomplete. Again, if guns were the problem, it would be obvious. You just choose to deny that people are actually the issue - it's so much easier to point at an inanimate object, then accept the fact that there are some seriously flawed people out there.

Please do move on. I wish you luck in finding the poster that you keep attempting to respond too, which isn't me.

 

He would either ban them or control them.

 

Listenvmate.
Your Right is the root of your problem.
Your Rightc s Wrong.
I have a Right to jump off à cliff. But that Right will likely kill me.
Being à Right does not give it papal dispensation.
It is outdated, pointless, bloody dangerous and in the hands of an unelected lobby groupvwhich pervertis your legal process.
And you don't care.
Of course guns are the problem. Dont give me this "people are the problem" stuff. If they couldn't get hold of guns there wouldn't be a problem.
Just one more trite excuse after another.
My numbers were right. I sent à link to confirm them.
Now off you play at being Captain America , saviour of the country. How many children will that cost?
And the very worst thibg of all...you are happy to accept any amount of slaughter just so you can kill someone who tries to steal your insured tractor.
Utterly insane.

 

And even when you get the right subject, you still get the facts wrong. Again, quote me where I said anything about killing someone over my tractor. Put up or shut up, as the saying goes. And we both know you can't put up, so....

Think of it this way, you don't live here, and I highly doubt you spent any time here at all, or you would actually understand what the 2nd Amendment is and why it exists. You are welcome to the protection of your government, where you have no right to privacy, no right to self protection, no right to think unapproved thoughts, and the local constabulary who is still minutes away when moments count.

 

You originally referred to the “incidents” as deaths/injuries. Of course that was disinformation.

Let’s examine the 400,000+ “incidents”.

Only 25% of those “incidents” resulted in injury. Of those 25% that resulted in injury, guess how many injuries were from gun shots?

A whopping 0.2%!

It’s difficult to develop a fear of firearms when 0.2% of “incidents” with firearms result in gunshot injuries.

Never mind there are over 1,000,000 self defense “incidents” with firearms annually.

Statistically, your argument is the equivalent of arguing all daddy longlegs spiders should be killed because they are venomous.

 

Yes...that was terrible. I think we will learn from that.

But I wouldn't get too cocky. I remember a few years back an elderly Jewish woman in France was screaming as she was being beat to death by an Islamic extremist,... as the French police waited outside her door doing nothing. At the time I was sure our police wouldn't act like that. Ultimately we should have the ability to defend ourselves.

 

I have committed a math error in post #619.

The correct percentage of non fatal gunshots resulting from the 400,000 incidents reported by Pixie would be about 0.05%, not 0.2%. I did not subtract the non-injured from the total non fatal “incidents”.

These figures are the average of incidents between 2007 and 2011 applied to Pixie’s statistic of 400,000.

 

Jesus, are we still talking about guns when a gun isn’t part of the OP?

Listen, many cultures had periods of violence in this country; Italians, Irish and Jews all had their moment in the spotlight and over time it got fixed. The violence back then was similar to the gang violence of today in that it was about business and turf control. Even Colombians were at the top of the pyramid of violence for a while. But the absolute senseless violence we are seeing today was unheard of back in the day. In fact, back then, these kids might have been taken care of if you know what I mean.

If the end of the tunnel has any kind of light it’s that those groups changed due to enforced laws and necessity. No longer do you see Italian, Irish or Polish mafia types gunning down people in restaurants and barber shops, and taking out totally innocent people or cops is forbidden. This is why I believe the folks mentioned in the OP can change - it’s because others did. The other groups may still commit crimes but there’s less of those kinds of people and less violence. It should also be mentioned that back in those days there were less social nets than there are today, so the way they got out is by getting an education and working a legit job. On top of that there was pressure from friends and family, especially family, to fly straight. Keeping the family name respectable was important and I know my parents were ashamed when I got into trouble which was far less than what we see today.

Now how do we do that? I have an idea, it will be ridiculed to death, but it’s still an idea and it should work. The big problem is people will look past what it’s trying to accomplish and cry racism and they certainly will cry very loudly.

 

Did I miss something about an AK-47? I haven't read anything about an AK and I read a lot of news. Since he was only 18, I wouldn't have thought that he would have had time to:

• Be at least 21 years of age to purchase a machine gun from the current owner.
• Pass a BATFE background check with a typical process time of 8 to 10 months.
• Pay a one-time $200 transfer tax. (You’ll need a stamp for each machine gun.)

Can you please link to that story for me?

 

Well with the leftwing defund the police movement how could there be enough and in your country does everyone get a policeman sitting on their front porch and to walk around with them?

Stop making false allegations which have nothing to do with what I posted. And you do realize you just made the case for an armed citizenry. Thank you.

 

And thanks to scotus we’re gonna get even more neglected unwanted kids. Yay states rights!