Without God...

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    Without God...There would be no purpose to Life.

    written on July Fourteenth, in thee Year of Our Lord 2022.

    What do I mean, when I say, Without God, There would be no purpose to Life?

    Well, first off, God is Love. Secondly, the meaning of Life, is Love.
    and thirdly Without God being the beginning and the end, there would be no Authentic purpose for the human race to exist from the beginning at all.

    Think about this for a second. If some sort of science were real, such as reincarnation for every person in existence, then all we would be doing, is ultimately competing to only do what is right by us, to get ahead in the next life.

    But instead, since God is real, we don't have to compete for anything. All we have to do is except him, and he accepts us for us. Flaws and all. If that isn't authenticity, then I don't know what is. If that isn't truth, then I don't know what is.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    I think what you mean is.....
    Without God...There would be no purpose in your Life.
     
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    I dont think he realizes that we use a different measuring stick to determine whats 'real' than he does.
     
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    "to each is their own."

    Since the age of 15, I've studied under the Greek Aphorism "Know Thyself."

    Socrates and Plato, studied under the same Aphorism. They were probably pretty stupid as well, though, right? lol.
     
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    how about '**** happens'?
     
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    Why should anything have an inherent purpose? The whole universe looks completely random to me. That doesn't mean life is pointless. Purpose isn't hard to find. There's plenty to see and do. Plenty of real people need help. Plenty of ways to have fun and be challenged. For me, once becoming a parent, even my own life pales in importance compared to theirs. Life is very full of purpose, and precious, without god. But it does make the eventuality of death much more daunting.

    I have no evidence any god is real. I assume you mean the Christian one. That one can't be real - makes no sense at all.
     
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    thank you for proving my point. God is Love, and Love is purpose of Life.

    You Love your children.

    Do American Democrat Politicians have more Authority, and Power if they Unite Us, Or Divide Us? exactly! so why would they unite us.
     
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    The Buddha - 400 years before Christ.
    God is immaterial to that path.
     
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    do you mean without a God myth to believe in, for some, there would be no purpose

    there is no God and guess what, were all still here
     
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    like a jealous ex-boyfriend that locks his girlfriend up in the basement for not "loving" him - what's the purpose again? is God like Trump and needs to be worshiped to calm his narcissistic fragile ego?

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+34:14&version=KJV
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    Exodus 34:14 King James Version (KJV)
    14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
    "
     
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    al roads lead to Rome as they, you will get there too, some just take the scenic route - reincarnations gives you lots of different views of reality
     
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    Kool so we should all be worshiping the God 'Jealous' because thats love!
    Seems a bit twisted to me!
     
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    In the Bible, as well as parts of Buddhism, it says to "Be Content". That's the opposite of materialism.
    in that aspect both have similarities.
     
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    God Bless
     
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    God Bless. You're entitled to your own beliefs, under freedom of speech. Under the U.S. Constitution. First Amendment.

    I'm sorry that you have to compare Jesus Christ to a jealous abusive ex boyfriend.

    I hope that you can find God some day, my friend. He Loves you, and will fill your life with Love, and hope.

    I will pray for you. In the meantime, you will have your hate.
     
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    don't need a mythical God, but if you do more power to you

    religious freedom is a great thing, theocracies are evil
     
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    you view reincarnation as science???

    I definitely believe in god, but I believe reincarnation absolutely happens. To think that we are expected to learn the truth of existence in a single life time is a bit ridiculous. I also find your view on reincarnation being doing just what is needed to get ahead is kind of off. I look at Christian views of doing what is right because you are afraid of going to hell to be more in line with what you are describing. Reincarnation provides a constant search for truth across many lifetimes, having nothing to do with “getting ahead”, but instead coming to the realization that everything we think is so important in the physical world is not important, and that the only truth is love, and anything that is not love is just an illusion. It allows for the metamorphosis of the soul until we are back in the form of perfect love so that we are ready to return to the “source” we were veiled from, which is god. The purpose of all of this is to give creation a sense of itself, to give meaning to what “love” is. Without the contrast provided by our existence, love would have no meaning.
     
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    Unless otherwise requested you only speak for yourself. Hubris is assuming your opinion applies to everyone.
     
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    Well, they were without your God, so according to you, their lives had no meaning.

    I don't need your God for purpose. In fact, I have much more purpose now than I did back when I worshipped him. Christianity says that God is agape . . . then demands that I abandon agape in favor of God.
     
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    No, he probably means all our lives. They are the people that love to dictate what other people can and can't do so it follows that we need to capitulate and accept all the Sky Daddy fairy tales they talk about. I'm no religious scholar or anything, but I feel confident in saying their "loving" god sounds like a jerk.

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    Are you aware that we can see your posting history? I'm not sure if I've seen one post of yours that isn't bashing democrats or mocking people you clearly think of as inferior. Are you under the impression that you are being kind and judging people by their character (versus book smarts)? If so, you are under the wrong impression.
     
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    Needing a purpose in life may well be one of the reasons for creating a god.

    But, I don't believe it is the only one.
     
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    God is simply the name we give to the purpose that gets us out of bed in the morning. Okay, for many it IS God - but for others, their god is money. Others, power. Or knowledge. Drugs. Sex. Food. My neighbors god must be his car, it's all I ever see him caring or talking about. Heck, to some people their god is Star Trek, Lord help them. Well at least those guys don't have sex as some kinda secondary god.

    To that degree, everyone has a god because everyone has a higher purpose they're living for. Even your hardcore athiests have a god as Athiesm IS their god. I think you can make a good case for a true athiest - having no actual higher purpose in their life - being the most depressed people out there as they have nothing to live for.
     
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    The deepest philosophical internal debates usually involve "Why am I here? along with "What purpose do I serve?" Having a personal God usually helps answer those questions.

    I genuinely believe that the Books of Job and Jeremiah should be required reading in schools. I know it ain't happening but hey, a teacher can dream, eh? Job in particular is almost Shakespearian in his quest to discover why man suffers in life, and who asks for Justice from God? Jeremiah, the soul of a suffering prophet deep in despair and doubt. I think those two books encompass much of the Human Condition.
     
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    I agree - and have said this exact statement many times. Science doesn't address these "why" questions.
    Job is a story of God having a fight with Satan, and causing Job hideous suffering simply to prove how much more right than Satan he was.

    I just don't see that story as being ANY kind of credit to God. Frankly, I'm surprised the powers that be chose to make that part of the Bible. That version of God is supremely disgusting.

    And, I certainly hope the human condition isn't God toying with us to prove how right he is.
     
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