This is how the anti gun Left "thinks'

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't think so.

    True, but no ammunition.

    Yes, if you pass a gun proficiency exam, medical examination and having a clean criminal record.

    Sure. I canceled my membership after they would not stop begging for money.
     
  2. Rucker61

    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

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    Why isn't it, then? By your logic we should allow the government to ignore the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and SCOTUS.
     
  3. Rucker61

    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

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    The Democrats would lose more money than the Republicans. Are you asserting that giving g Democrats less money improves democracy?
     
  4. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    then your rants about the NRA are completely worthless and have no relevance whatsoever
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    blatant falsehood.
     
  6. Pixie

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    The government can do what it democratically wants to do.
    I don't think à 250 year old amendment is do sacred that it leaves thousands of people dead.
    Changing one amendment does nothing to change anything else. Amendments have been changed before.
     
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    Do yourself a favour and read the facts.
    That way you will know what you are talking about.
     
  8. Pixie

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    I am not talking about your endless bipartisan arguments . Frankly I find them puérile to dangerous.
    I am talking about agreeing to agree for the saké of thousands of DEAD people.

    BTW the NRA supports whoever might be useful and not by political party.
     
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    Oh just stop empty kneejerk réactions and think about it.
    You are allowing rich interest groups to direct your legislation

    They don't just support one party.
    Look at the list of those touched by the NRA.
    They are strategically selected for maximum influence.
     
  10. Pixie

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    Unlikecwht youcderm to do I don't l8ve in a national babble

    Often someone outside can see far more clearly than you can. They are not affected by biased infighting and confirmation bias.
     
  11. Rucker61

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    Find a recent red/blue map of the states. Start counting red states. Stop when you get to 13.

    Since the ratification of the Bill of Rights, we've ratified 17 amendments, and two of those canceled each other out. It's bee attempted over 11,000 times.
     
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    Red voters vote for conservative politicians because they want conservative representation, in the same way that blue voters vote for blue representation. Funding doesn't change that proposition.
     
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    Which ignores the fact that Big Government is always the greatest threat to humanity.

    "R. J.. Rummel, a professor emeritus of political science .... has painstakingly compiled statistics accounting for the number of people killed worldwide by "democide," a term he coined to describe governments' intentional killing ... of civilians....

    ...Rummels books on the subject - particularly "Death By Government" (1994) and "Statistics of Democide" (1997) - provide the most comprehensive estimates currently available, and the ones most often referenced by scholars.

    Rummel estimates that from 1900 to 1987 governments murdered almost 170 million people - a figure that far exceeds the 34.4 million battle deaths thought to have resulted from all the international and civil wars fought during the same period....

    Democide often occurs under authoritarian regimes... Indeed democratic governments were responsible for only about one percent of the twentieth century's death toll from democide...."
    THE ATLANTIC MONTHLY, "The World In Numbers," "Murder By The State," Vol. 292 NO. #4, 11/2003.
     
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    The Inconvenient Truth:

    Gun Free Zones Kill Children
     
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    Then you should support arming the teachers and recruiting armed volunteers to sit at game tables on every floor of every school.
     
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    So you have a tiny chance of no danger of death by the state .
    ISTM you and those who worry about state overturning of your country should seriously start to look at your checks and balances built into your democracy and the part the military plays.
    The whole idea is impossible.
     
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  17. Pixie

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    Why should I advocate for teachers to fire over the head of their students?
    Are you mad that you want more carnage?

    I want law to be administered by trained professional policemen and security guard. Not geography teachers.
     
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    Inconvenient Truth?
    Is that all you think it us?

    Now why do you think gun free zones never cause the deaths of children anywhere else?
     
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    You haven't been reading the news lately. Cops sit back and let the carnage continue. Private citizens intervene and save lives.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-woman-killed-man-fired-rifle-party-crowd-85002437

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/gu...ore-being-shot-by-armed-bystander-2022-07-18/

    https://www.npr.org/2022/07/17/1111928866/uvalde-school-shooting-report
     
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    Focus: "from1900 to 1987 governments murdered almost 170 million people - a figure that far exceeds the 34.4 million battle deaths thought to have resulted from all the international and civil wars fought during the same period....

    Democide often occurs under authoritarian regimes..
    . Indeed democratic governments were responsible for only about one percent of the twentieth century's death toll from democide...."
    THE ATLANTIC MONTHLY, "The World In Numbers," "Murder By The State," Vol. 292 NO. #4, 11/2003.

    The 2nd amendment is the great check to authoritarian government in the US.
     
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    An armed geography teacher in the line of fire Vs. "trained professional policemen" cowering in the hallway -- think it through.
     
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    The Inconvenient Truth:

    Gun Free Zones Kill Children whenever a killer chooses to kill children in a Gun Free Zone.

    Armed teachers or volunteers in the schools are the rather obvious quick solution to school shootings.
     
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    Sigh

    Theycdo not have the LEGAL checks and balances you have!
    Dont you trust your Constitution? You certainly do à lot of applauding it.
     
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    I am not speaking of one side being without guns.
    I am speaking of GUN FREE.
    You can't kill someone with a gun if no one has a gun!
     
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    I did.
    You need proper policing.
    Properly trained, honest, professional security.
    Doing what police arre supposed to do.
     

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