Without God...

Very few things in life have only binary options.
Believing something fully or not at all are the extreme ends of it.
There's many possibilities that can fall in between. He may have had a heat stroke and passed out and had a dream or a night mare.

I never believe things without some proof and verification of said proof.

The only person to know about some vision and make a claim about it being Jesus is Saul only.

The persecutor of christians.

 

I feel sorry for you, you seem very confused.

 

LOL. Because unlike you, I don't believe in fairy tales, want verifiable evidence, and don't see the world as binary?

What a hoot.

 

Because your perspective is so limited.

 

Not seeing the world in binary terms.
Not believing things unseen and unknown.
Needing evidence and support of evidence.

Is limited perspective?

While you think the world is binary. It doesn't get more limited than only 2 options.
Maybe the word you should use for me, is not delusional.

 

I've never said the world is binary, I don't know where you got that. I said the issue of belief in God, the creator of the universe, is a binary choice. Someone can be agnostic about God, not knowing or not caring about God, but as to belief itself it's either yes or no.

 

God wasn't the topic.
Now you have another issue that you see as binary.

 

God's existence and man's ability to know God is my issue. If you don't want my opinions in this thread I'll be glad to leave you to your devices.

 

First of all, science is a useful tool for discovery. But to your non-scientist (followers) it can be like (not exactly) religion in the belief that it will/can answer questions regarding the supernatural. Because it can't the supernatural is dismissed as existing. Science should not be ignored, but neither should it be a replacement for religious beliefs. They can both be a part of our worldview perspective.

 

I think it’s different than faith in the sense that there is a verifiable history of what science can and can’t do and the kind of questions it can and can’t answer. I think a person who thinks about science a lot might be more likely to say “science may be able to answer this question one day” whereas in religion it’s more like “the bible gives you the answer for this” or if the answer is not given “you can ask god that yourself one day.” At least, that is my experience.

 

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Then it also comes back to what is meant by “supernatural”.

 

Every discussion will require an agreement on the definition of words used. When I use the term I'm specifically referring to that which is not dependent on the natural world for its existence. God being one such example.

 

If you can point me to a peer reviewed study on near death experiences that is published in a legitimate scientific journal I would like to take a look. There is certainly nothing like that linked to on your web page.

 

There are many article on this page that do answer your question.

https://near-death.com/science

Scientific Evidence of the Afterlife

Articles, 20 articles

Evidence, 24 articles

Experts, 10 articles

Hallucinations, 9 articles

Research Conclusion, 34 articles

 

This is on my profile as well. But Democrats have said for over 70+ years that Republicans are the close minded ones, and yet in the past 70+ years America has gotten a lot worse morally and ethically overall, and it's also gotten a lot more liberal Democrat.

so obliviously Republicans aren't the close minded ones, as Democrat media and their politicians say we are, and obviously, the further America leans liberal, the less morality we tend to have, and the more materialistic we become.

 

My Uncle, whom I use to live with for around 12 years, has his bachelors in Physics. He use to work at NASA, back in the 80's. He supports Trump greatly. He is the reason I am so political, and where most of my actual political knowledge comes from him. Whilst, him and I differ some what in our beliefs. (he is more neutral not denying or accepting anything, I'm more spiritual). We both despise Abortion with a passion, and despise how evil most of the Democrat Politicians are. Especially, the clintons.

It's funny, because we both use a lot of logic, and it's even funnier to him, when liberals come out with things like the hoax of global warming. Because he knows the lies behind it. ice caps reforming. some how democrats can predict what's going to happen in the future weather wise. Democrat can some how predict or know what happened hundreds of thousands of years ago weather wise, even though there were no records kept??, and yet weather people can't even predict what tomorrows weather will be for sure.


owe yes, and there is one other major greater point. when fox news was younger, they had a host, that had a Scientist make a statement. The statement admitted that the Scientist himself, worked with others on Global Warming, and the guy came out and admitted that it was all just a hoax. Of course, once the Democrats got a hold of the guy, he retracted his statement. I can see the hosts face, but not his name. He's on the Republican radio now. He has a goatee, and it's grey. But not his own show on fox any more.

Any who, If I could meet one political person in person, it would probably have to be Victor David Hanson. After studying that guy, he is one of the smartest men I've seen.

 

I asked for a peer reviewed article in a legitimate scientific journal which you did not provide. But what I should have asked is to provide a scientific journal journal paper that asserts that NDEs in any way involve a supernatural reality, supernatural revalations, etc. Cause I believe that scientific articals have addressed NDEs studies, but none of these studies claim that there is anything supernatural about a so called NDE.

Anecdotal stories about DMT, and 5-MeO-DMT (from toads) seem to produce similar experiences to the NDE suggesting that NDEs are a function of brain chemestry and do not involve a supernatural reality.

 

You can't call people's claims of NDE's evidence.

It's saying "I almost died, so now everybody has to believe what I say."

That's just plain silly.

 

Seriously, who is saying everybody has to believe?

 

Those who want to use their religion as justification for law.

 

Also, those who want to use government revenue to promote their religion.

This includes ideas such as having teachers in public schools teach a specific religion.

 

There is certainly nothing supernatural about love or other emotions., They are functions of the brain. Damage the limbic system and the ability to express or feel love and other emotions is damaged or destroyed. This fact is well documented and constutes empirical evidence.

 

Maybe it’s the conflict. When each side views the other as an existential threat perhaps both sides need to take a look in the mirror.

The best thing about Christianity is that it teaches you to love your enemy.

 

That's some mad science. Our bodies are our means. They are not our source or even are they us.

 

Under the Obama administration, the two major objectives of the party were resolved by bipartisan committees!

Tell me how that is "seeing them as the enemy".

Tell me when Republicans have EVER EVER done that.