Eric Trump reveals HE told Donald FBI raided Mar-a-Lago: Ex-President's son claims agents 'ransacked

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  1. Overitall

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    Hold that thought while I check to see if you've already been told to have a good day. I sometimes forget. :)

    Eta: I didn't. Enjoy your evening.
     
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  2. Condor060

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    I never used the term absconded and you have no information that anyone did.
    Or is that what you are classifying all former presidents with who took documents from the WH.
    Can't wait to hear this
     
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    I accept your surrender. I will be benevolent.
     
  4. Nemesis

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    I used "absconded" because the Orange Dumpsterfire absconded. You're the one making some goofy claim; support them.
     
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    You say the same thing. A former President is still addressed as Mr. President. That applies to all of them, not just Trump. We still address Presidents Carter, Clinton, Bush 43, Oba, and Trump as Mr. President.
     
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    Wanna try my question one more time, since I never mentioned the after david.

    Explain how Team Insane was able to release the version of the warrant without redactions if they didn't get a copy without redactions??

    Oh, never mind.... it's not like you don't understand what happened here.... but will still defend it...
     
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    So what?
     
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    That's a great question. The answer will likely involve "They were lying! Umm, Gestapo! Like, libruls!"
     
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    Do your own research. This basic stuff has been reported on and presented here.
     
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    So why didn’t they charge her with destroying evidence?
     
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    The date is in 2018, while Trump and his DOJ were in charge.
    Maybe you are suggesting that Trump is as much a part of the swamp as the next guy?
    Also, as noted by another poster, some article written by a reporter for a very biased website without any proof, evidence?
    Couldn't you find anything official about it, like what the Trump DOJ had to say?
    But you take it as gospel that it's true, accurate and can only mean that Obama did something wrong.
    I would say nice try, but it really wasn't.
     
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    Nope... it was much dumber...
     
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    Where did you hear that?
     
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    Um, no, @cd8ed , truly it doesn't work that way. Even if the information in question is no higher than the lowly "Confidential"-level (on big step below "Secret"), then it should not be mishandled, according to NSA protocol. I worked in that world for a lot of years, and I'm pretty sure I'm right about that. Bottom line: if Trump really did break the law, even with something as relatively 'trivial' as Confidential documents, he should face charges, a trial, and if found guilty, punishment according to the law.

    Hillary Clinton? Well... surely the series of processes SHOULD have been brought to bear when she totally mishandled TOP-SECRET information on her private, unprotected server, but, hey, some of us are treated differently than others....
     
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    I wish I had five bucks for every time I've written this, but -- if Trump has done anything to warrant it, he should be appropriately charged, brought to trial, and if found guilty, made to suffer the consequences. I have never deviated from that belief.

    NO ONE should be above the law -- especially where national security is concerned -- NEITHER DONALD TRUMP, NOR HILLARY CLINTON!
     
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    A Jewish Space Laser spelled it out on his driveway.....
     
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    Trump's lawyer also lied..........when he signed a statement saying all the documents had been returned to the Gov't/

    and they had not.........

    meanwhile social media is ablaze with threats to the FBI etc............ without considering the person who is totally responsible for this.

    Social media is becoming the petri dish for generating crazy conspirator . theories, lies, misinformation ........and garden variety nonsense.......with potential for increased tension, insatiability and violence.

    Very true.........but too late..........as the misinformation, conspirator theories , and other fanciful ideas are in over drive.
     
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    Sorry, Stat, it was your colleague @bx4 who caught my egregious spelling error. But I'll remember your gracious kindness, nevertheless.
     
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    They there is nothing magical about the President's constitutional, plenary, SCOTIS upheld power to classify or declassify information on his own. It is not subject to any approval process. It cannot not be limited by statute. I heard a legal scholar this morning discussing the Executive Order for the Executive Branch over declassification of information and the rules and regulations for doing so. It was issued by Bush43 and then again by Obama. It applies to all federal employees and members of the Executive Branch..............EXCEPT the President and the Vice-President. They are constitutional officers.
     
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    I still say you cannot say the lawyer "lied" in June....If they took what their lying client told them and confirmed that with the FBI, that's simple stupidity, and will also lead to some FBI agents knocking on their door shortly for questioning about that event, after the events of last week...

    Then they'll have a real chance to lie...
     
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    PSST

    the BOXES were not what they were looking for

    it is information that the DOJ was looking for

    the boxes could have contained the information at one time

    a box is just a box....everybody has at least one

    but not many have boxes containg information relating to nuclear codes and secrets
     
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    I haven't 'exonerated' Trump for, or from, ANYTHING. If he's guilty of crimes, let him be charged, tried, and if found guilty, punished!

    Next, I have no idea whether or not a President of the United States can point his "magic wand" at a pile of classified document and render them declassified or not. At different times, in two different job fields, I held two different top-secret security clearances, but I can't sit here and pretend to tell you whether what Trump states about his ability to declassify documents "at-will" is true, or not. I sure as hell never had, nor wanted, that ability at my comparatively lowly level.

    I might ask you essentially the same question, however, with respect to all those gigantic piles of paper than Messiah Obama made off with before he finally left the White House. Was that 'cool', or not...? I don't know the answer, and somehow I doubt that you do, either.
     
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    It is heading that way. Proper justice takes time, collection of evidence.....etc etc........ and it i slow because it is essential to have things calm down and become more objective.

    The law is not emotional and reactionary........ humans are.

    You are right: NO ONE........ is above the law.......
     
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