Critical Race Theory is Destroying the Workplace

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    So do you disagree with Critical Race THEORY?
     
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    why would I, I do not know it, never been forced on me, it's just a theory on racism, what parts of it do you think should be denounced?

    I denounce the white racists and black racists trying to use it to attack other races... do you as well?
     
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    But you DO "know" white supremacy?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yes, slavery and discrimination against other races is wrong

    can you agree with that?
     
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    Is this all that there is to the white supremacy ideology? Nothing else to "know?"
     
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  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    We weren't taught white supremacy as such but we were taught an unregenerate "Lost Cause" version of both the CW and particularly Reconstruction. Thaddeus Stevens was one of our Great Villains and the only reason we weren't told the Klan was good was because it was a Catholic HS.
     
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    During the many years of slavery in America the cotton farm workplaces were arranged according to race.
    Maybe such an approach lingers in the subconscious of American society and influences the general American workplace.
     
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    Yes. Standardized tests that give different results for different races are obviously poorly standardized. There are standardized tests that show no such differences
     
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    CRT is an attempt to find out where bigotry comes from , either white bigotry or black bigotry.
    It looks at the influence of environment, family, the media, religion etc etc.
    No how in all that is holy can schoolchildren understand this?
    Further, it is a THEORY.
    Lastly if à teacher who had been exposed to these theories found à child being bullied by another based on racism I would find such theories useful when I dealt with the bullying with the parents etc.
    I don't find anything wrong with understanding more.
    Nor do I understand why some white people are frightened of it and think it is an attack on them.
    Perhaps the findings will reveal why they themselves hold negative impressions of others of à different race...and they fear exposure. Do they prefer to be left alone to their préjudices without having to defend it against research?
    Maybe there should be research into why people accept or reject research...oh wait...we already know that is called confirmation bias.
     
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    I thought you were gonna tell us what you disagreed with in CRT
     
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    in the old days some churches probably had camping trips with a burning cross for the kids, as many felt they had a God given right to own slaves
     
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    agree, and feel the same if it's a white child being racist towards a black child or vice versa - both should be addressed the same

    it's sad that some children are exposed to these race issues so young, they do not even see race until taut
     
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    Let's start with institutional racism.
     
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    Well, for starters, CRT does not demonize all whites. What it does do is theorize that racism is a key to how and why we have certain laws in this country. Second, it is not taught in primary or secondary schools, period, despite what Gov DeSantis and others have said. It is the excuse needed to put in their own ideology into schools, such as Christian Nationalism for instance.

    What is really happening is that conservatives don't like heroes of people of color ranging from George Washington Carver to Rosa Parks to MLK and others. This article explains that is exactly what happened in Florida based on the new "anti-woke law" that DeSantis signed.
     
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    Well, you have this article where a teacher, while setting up his classroom, with pictures of famous African Americans was taken down. To put this in context, the school where he is teaching has a predominantly black student population. So you may want to ask yourself, why did that happen? Were the figures not authorized by the new teaching standards? Was it because of HB 7 and how people interpret that bill? He had pictures of George Washington Carver, MLK, Jr, Harriet Truman, Colin Powel, and others. And if it was reported there and made public, I am willing to surmise there are a 100 or more so incidents not being reported in the state. That's how. Then you have the new curriculum for social studies and history based on the "patriotism" angle. Although patriotism is important, it should not be based on ideological definition, which is what Gov DeSantis is doing.


    It is called Florida in which the bill bans history lesson that "cause white students discomfort" whatever the hell that means in Florida. Now, you may want to ask yourself, what history lessons are those? Slavery for instance? Slavery in the US more specifically?

    https://truthout.org/articles/flori...lessons-that-cause-white-students-discomfort/


    Again, CRT is not taught in primary or secondary schools period. Showing a graph with real world examples is not CRT even if those examples show statistics on the demographics of population that Gov DeSantis tried to do.
     
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    Diversity training is not forced on private businesses. Biden's executive order in 2021 focuses on the federal government only but it may encourage businesses to follow suit. Businesses recognize that different groups work for them. Those groups can be defined based on cultural, racial, ethnic, sexual orientation, etc. But then again, you obviously never worked for a major corporation before. Sometimes it is done in a hypothetical setting such as a person playing the role of manager and having different people with different backgrounds and attitudes to manage.

    Some companies, like IBM, make it optional but encourages annual training. In government, it is mandatory, as prescribed by law. When I worked for the government, we had sexual orientation training, diversity training, and other training. Diversity training focused on not excluding someone exclusively based on race, religion, creed, ethnicity, sexual orientation, gender, etc. It also gives blantant examples of what to do and not to do, like calling a black person the N word.
     
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    She never said biology in any of her posts. She simply said that sociologists, the study of human nature, from our earlist days as homosapiens some 10000 or more so years ago, to today, that racism is persistence of culture. The poster is right. We have some 5000-plus years of recorded history, from the ancient days of Babylon to the ancient days of China before it was united into one country. She also said that race is how people identify themselves and that is natural as well.

    I think you are intentionally taking things out of context in this debate of yours to try to prove your point, which is that CRT is bad and Gov DeSantis is right.
     
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    Yeah, racist laws like affirmative action! :roflol:
     
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    Actually, the tests work rather well at predicting success in academic endeavors, regardless of race.
     
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    It looks like libhater ran out of steam.
     
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    Then why even have them? Why not simply send all the blacks to work the fields and all the Asians to engineering school? What does it matter if we are wasting the occasional genius? There are plenty of Einsteins.

    It's not the tests that are predicting success. It's the expectations
     
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    We have them exactly to detect the occasional genius. This is called equal opportunity.
     
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    Tests and exams measure RELATIVE SUCCESS as rated against an almost impossible top standard.
    Grade divisions are calculated by the percentage of students' attainment relative to that and each orher.
    Ultimately someone decided how many of each grade they want as representing à bell curve.
    The difference at the edges between say à B and à C is flexible defending on the weight of marks across the group being tested.
    And there is always controversy.

    But in essence, the grades indicate à contextual ranking.
     
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    Oh it’s not racist at all to determine candidates or opportunity based on how many checkboxes you can mark.:) Look away. Leftists deny it until the end. Hint…straight white males don’t get to check anything.

    AA is as racist as it gets, by definition and practice.
     
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    When I was a junior and senior in an American high school we sat both state and national exams.
    I am aware that state exams vary in difficulty.
    it was well known which states were harder or easier.
    The important exams were national.
    BTW in those days there were no checkboxes. We could write cohérent sentences back then.
     

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