Canadian police: 10 dead, 15 injured from stabbings

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  1. vman12

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    So most people that get murdered walk around thinking they're about to be murdered?

    Maybe it wasn't you that kept using the world "felt". Dunno. Not bothered to go back and look.

    What do you think the risk assessment was for the 10 people that got stabbed to death? Low?

    You do what you want, I'm not trying to convince you to be prepared for the worst.
     
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    How about no "war on drugs," no gun-grabbing, and no anti-abortion laws?
     
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    No, obviously not, people who live in high crime areas worry about violent crime. If anyone is walking around 'thinking they're about to be' as you put it then they are the reason their neighborhood is a high crime area.

    I am medical checks, bush fires protection, first aid kits, first aid course, evac plan. Worrying about being shot ranks only slightly higher than 'being attacked by a crocodile' on my risk assessment list. There is more than enough for me to worry about in life as it is, the cost of living, health issues, family, the list goes on. In my local area I can't recall the last time there was a public incidence of violent crime.

    As for the victims of this crime? Hard to say, that's 10 individual risk assessments. But if each victim was chosen via opportunity rather than premeditation? Very low, unless of course they were directly involved in the drug trade with the two suspects. This was an extremely rare form of attack.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When was the last time you gave CPR to someone or used an evac plan?

    Look, if you don't want to have a gun, that's on you. I don't care.

    My problem with your comments throughout is putting arguments out there that no one even mentioned, as I've already said.
     
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    Some have been banned.
     
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    the federal war on drugs violates the tenth amendment as does any federal gun control law other than perhaps some import issues. State gun bans violate the second as incorporated but state drug laws do not. banning abortion does not violate any constitutional issue but bans on pre-viability abortion or bans in cases of rape, incest or medical necessity cannot meet a rational basis test
     
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    which is completely moronic and violates Miller, Heller, Caetano and McDonald
     
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    When was the last time you had to draw your firearm in self defense? Unless you live in a high crime area or are someone that by choice or profession are placed in circumstances that make it much more likely the chances you will ever have to do so are exceedingly small. You also seem to be arguing that never actually using an evac plan or any of the other things I mentioned etc justifies not having them to begin with! Really?.

    And I quoted the 'argument' back to you that started this discussion.
     
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    lets see, I am a member of the GSSF 500 and 250 club. the 60X PPC club, I had a 96% A rating in USPSA (now called grand master), a triple A in all four NSSA guns, a master rating in ISU Skeet and clays, and shot distinguished expert with 7 different handguns on the USMS qualification course. Why it saved the guy's life is that if I had not had a gun, I would have used the knife I was carrying and since a knife has almost no "stopping power" (unlike a 9mm stuck in someone's stomach), one has to keep cutting till the attacker stops attacking.
     
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    There are a lot of crazy people and a lot of stupid people out there and they don't care who they hurt. They're not sorry that they killed. They are only sorry that they were caught and the authority to have pity on them. They will also deny that they committed the crimes they are accused of brought against them. Those that commit the crimes think they can get away with which is not always the case.
     
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    Drawn? Zero. There was one case where some gents decided to turn around once they realized I had a holstered weapon though. Well, I did draw it once while in my car, late at night, and a car going through a parking lot stopped directly behind me with the effect of making it impossible for me to back out or move my vehicle. They sat there with their tinted windows and headlights off for a couple minutes while I removed my seatbelt, drew and waited, and they eventually drove off.

    Besides, I'm not suggesting evac plans and other things aren't necessary. I have those things as well.

    What confuses me is why you would have a bunch of plans for rare events, then say you don't have a firearm in there because it's a rare event.

    I mean you've planned for a bunch of things that will probably never happen, but your rationale for not having a gun is that "the odds are low".

    Doesn't make much sense to me but you do you.

    Yes, you quoted an argument where no one ever suggested a gun was a sure win, which is what you kept saying over and over.
     
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    What I find funny is the the people who are so pro hard drug freedom want to ban guns when their hard drugs kill 3-4 times more people than firearm homicides and suicides combined.
     
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    I've actually just planned for the the most likely events that I and the family may face. Bush fires an annual threat, I've had cause to administer first aid (epileptic seizure and in another case suns stroke), power outages. That kind of thing. The quote I was referring to was the one about Canada changing its gun laws. I simply plan for the most likely. As I keep saying, physical attack? Way, way down the list of 'likely' event's. I used to own firearms BTW but physical protection was never, ever the reason, merely a hypothetical side 'benefit', one that never has and in all likelihood never will be an issue. And if I ever go back to shooting it wont be the reason either.
     
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    Ok. Good luck.
     
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    Ditto, stay safe.
     
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    The bastard died.
     
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    Or more amusing is them correctly noting how stupid the war on drugs is-and yet they want to repeat it with a war on guns-which is even more doomed to fail
     
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    What part of it is Democratic? I mean, give me an example of Democracy at work in the US that you think is doing a good job.

    Arming every man, woman, and child with two (+) guns because 001% of the people do something dumb is more than stupid. “That's called panic mongering and it's silly and emotionally driven.”
     
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    Jesus!!!
     
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    Latest news just in. The final assailant has been located and arrested by Police, only to die shortly thereafter from what at this stage is being reported as self inflicted injuries.
     
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    F-A-R-E, what does that spell?
     
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    So why bring up guns in a knife thread?
     
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    White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said on Tuesday the United States “stands with Canada” over the “senseless and devastating attack” that left 10 people dead in Saskatchewan over the weekend. She condemned the attacks and said the thoughts of the Biden administration are with the families of the victims.

    https://globalnews.ca/video/9108952...-canada-over-senseless-and-devastating-attack

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    Thank you, America!! That means a lot to us!
     
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    This just says he went into "medical distress":
     
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    I'm not talking about when you were a kid. As an adult, a grown up, it's very difficult to find weed. Most ppl grow their own anyway.
     

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