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Being a patriotic American doesn't make you a 'Christian nationalist'

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by XXJefferson#51, Sep 10, 2022.

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    The best post from the left of the day. Quoti g my post and no comment.
     
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    Well said Rampart! The left is often rendered speechless by my topics and comments…
     
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    It’s completely acceptable. We put God first. We obey His laws first. It doesn’t mean that we don’t love America because we put America first after God. We also obey our government and it’s laws. We pray that they never come into conflict with Gods laws.
     
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    Because there aren’t many at all. Less than one in every 1,000 in America is a Christian Dominionist. Most all Christians believe in some amount of separation of Church and state.
     
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    Prove that the article or I ever said that there should be no separation of church and state.
     
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    God wants no part of worship of Him that is compelled involuntarily by force.
     
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    And you and other Christian Nationalist.
     
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    Putting God ahead of humanity is a terrible thing.Steven Weinberg
     
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    If you are a true Patriot, then you should condemn Christian Nationalism and its tenets, challenge the GOP politicians who support this such as MTG and Lauren Boerbert, among others and encourage all Christian Pastors, especially Evangelical Christian Pastors to condemn such rhetoric.
     
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    Romans 13:1-7, "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience."

    Seems to me if you obey God's law, then you must also obey Man's law as well, per the Apostle Paul.
     
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    A hero of the MAGA said

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    Part if the issue us how you're interpreting the constitution.

    The intent if the first amendment is not the establishment of an agnostic or atheist country. Even religious individuals whom are elected as government representatives are not expected to forgot their religious beliefs nor perform their job absent of their religion.

    The intent is to simply forbid the government from endorsing or mandating a religion by force. That's it.

    If Christians desire to express their beliefs, even in public settings or public venues, that is not a government endorsement and I fact prohibiting such expression is also a violation of the first amendment.

    I'm not religious at all, but I don't get all spooked about people that are, even if they desire to express that faith in public settings.
     
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    Where are you getting your news/facts?

    I think you need to seriously evaluate the source.
     
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    "The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants"

    This also applies to those that pray at the alter of government.
     
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    Which doesn't negate my post in the slightest.
     
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    They are serious threats to all of our basic institutions

    And they are internal

    Can you name any worse?
     
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    Not necessary, you and your neo fascist demigod are falling off the proverbial tight rope you claim to not be walking.
     
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    Its more of this WORD MAGIC the left likes to use.
    You can be a nationalist regardless of your religion.
    But, to be fair and objective, even though we do have separation of religion and government, the right does like to use the G word often.
    Saying things like "As God intended", "In God we trust" and so on. Saying these things is more like tradition but this does give the left some low hanging fruit to push their narratives. Saying things like "I'm a God fearing servant of the public" makes many people happy but turns some people away. Republicans need to be smarter with WORDS.
     
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    It's you consider the issue an interpretation then don't infringe on the rights of others nor try to force other Americans to toe the line of Christo fascists. If victor Orban is appearing at CPAC and appealing to you, you'd better ask WTF the Trump Party is doing.
     
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    Kee watching those news sources. They have an agenda, and have you hook line and sinker.
     
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    I dont even know who Victor Orban is.

    I speaking in general terms.

    The intent of our Constitution and amendments is not to limit or restrict religion in any capacity except government endorsement.
     
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    They have the same agenda I do. Not to see the US taken over by Fascists
     
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    Can you?

    Please do so, I am interested in hearing your definition, thanks
     
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    He is prime minister of Hungary and is a darling of the alt right and modern conservative movement here. He even spoke at CPAC this past summer.
     
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