Just so I know, Election fraud claims are acceptable if they come from the left?

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  1. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But when they come from the right, they are "maga forces" and a "threat to democracy"?
    just making sure I have this clear

    Its interesting that our press secretary has made the same accusations she condemns all republicans for

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/sep/6/karine-jean-pierre-grilled-about-her-past-accusati/

    Before joining the Biden White House, Ms. Jean-Pierre tweeted in 2016 that former President Donald Trump stole that year’s election. Two years later, she claimed that Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp, a Republican, stole the gubernatorial election.

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    Don't fall for their hypocritical crap! You are within your right to believe anything you want to believe, especially when a pandemic is exploited to change the voting system. Is it wrong to commit violence due to these beliefs? Hell yes it is! But keep in mind, controlling votes isn't enough for them, they want to control your THOUGHTS and BELIEFS too and this is DANGEROUS.

    Don't let them make you feel like you are stupid or lesser just because you believe in something based on all of the shady circumstances. It appears, some democrats, even one tha tis basically the face of our nation, believes in these things as well!

    Also, when they shame you for your beliefs, you always have this article for a quick defense to put them in their place.

    That's all,

    Cheers!
     
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    Is there concrete evidence to back up claims?
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what "claims"? what are you talking about. Its all true, She has tweeted these things. You replied so fast that unless you are some kind of prodigy, you would have never had time to even read the article

    BUSTED!
     
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    Moony cultist rag bleats wut?
     
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    You're right...dopey Jean-Pierre making such accusations is totally equivalent to the NUMEROUS politicians, political pundits and countless Trump fans who've continuously and numerously made such accusations about 2020 election.
    Jean-Pierre is JUST as much an idiot for her "stolen election" accusations as those on the Right are for their "stolen election" accusations. Stupid is as stupid does.

    Cheers!
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    while I don’t think either are “stupid”, mad respect for calling out both sides equally
    Much respect for non partisan answers

    thank you
     
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    Gosh, well... lets see who's on this list... Stacey Abrams, Hillary Clinton, Liz Pocohantus, and many more. You seem to fail the inclusivity test today...
     
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    Interestingly, when I click on the highlighted part to her tweets, it takes me to the Times home page - not her tweets. Not saying she didn't make them, but they clearly don't want to link to them. As she referenced 'voting rights' in her defense, I was interested in seeing what she actually tweeted - but no ability in the article to do that.
     
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    When the Democrats claim election fraud the claim is not only acceptable but also completely credible and a definitive statement of guilt by the parties which committed the fraud. Think about it, we want to preserve democracy in this nation therefore Democrats MUST be afforded universal justification in their claims because you can't possibly have a democracy without Democrats. Their name is literally part of the definition!
     
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    Awesome sarcasm. More.
     
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    Election fraud claims are acceptable if they come from the left?

    But when they come from the right, they are "maga forces" and a "threat to democracy"?
     
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    I haven't seen the tweets, but even if it's as bad as described, it's not the same. Maybe if she incites a mob to invade the capitol beating up cops and chanting to the hang the vice president, and gets fake electors, and starts tampering with election equipment, then we can start calling it the same.
     
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    Gosh, well...the OP was talking about Jean-Pierre specifically. You seem to fail reading comprehension. Carry on
     
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    I should have checked those links myself. SORRY
    Here you go
    https://twitter.com/K_JeanPierre/status/810294911815847936

    Thats one of them anyway
     
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    And Darth actually complimented you on your bi=partisanship.... And just now, it doesn't matter to you?
     
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    YUP, INCITEMENT IS BAD

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    I'm happy that Donald's statement weren't real INCITEMENT since he said "Peaceful and Patriotically"
     
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    Do you have a point to your rant?
     
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    They sure are now! The more conspiracies you can throw out there, the more lies, the more times you can throw out words like 'stolen', 'cheat' and 'voter fraud' the more money you can rake in for fake election challenges, that will actually pay off campaign debt, and fund your next SuperPac for two years hence. You can also undermine the legitimacy of the winner to set the agenda, and govern, and if you keep your base in constant election attack mode without worrying about election winners riding a wave of momentum and getting anything done for the majority of voters who really wanted that agenda enacted when they cast those votes.

    We Dems would be fools not to rip this page out of the Trump playbook every single time we lose.
     
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    If we want to do a comparison, we are talking about a then-journalist's comments versus a POTUS. Are you suggesting that the two are equivalent in power and influence? If we want to make a fair comparison, you'll have to show where JeanPierre continued making those allegations after being told - repeatedly - that they were false.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thats too much SPIN for my taste.
    She is seen on national television way more than Trump is.
    Just stick to the basics. Are fraud claims acceptable from the left but not the right. YES or NO?
     
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    So you can't make a fair comparison, typical.
     
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    Its no different than when you guys try and say the 100+ democrat riots as DIFFERENT than January 6th because it happened at a capital. There is clearly a double standard when it comes to which side can make election fraud claims and which one can't. This person did, TWICE, and was given a high profile position after doing so.
    I stand by my OP and think the 2 things are similar enough to be compared.

    Edit: I don't think there is anything wrong with Karine's fraud tweets. What I have a problem with his her grilling people for having the same thoughts.
     
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    Except for the fact that they ARE different.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and you are free to believe in "RIOTS FOR ME BUT NOT FOR THEE". I am not the thought police and not into forcing beliefs. Please feel free to keep believing that if that is what you truly believe.
     
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    It boils down to this....
    Democrat accusations are investigated..
    Republican accusation are dismissed and censored...
     
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