Just so I know, Election fraud claims are acceptable if they come from the left?

I must disagree with you, here. This is the way it has been done for a long time, now. Even if you have felt, in every past election, that this was the wrong method to use, everyone was aware of the rules, and what was required, to be deemed the winner. So, Clinton's making an issue of this, after the fact, comes across akin to a chess player, upon losing a match, complaining that the "point total," of the pieces he'd captured from his opponent, was much higher than that of the winner. Yeah, that and your opponent's king, gets you the win... or just getting the opponent's king, is a win, as well.

It was poor sportsmanship, on Clinton's part, and a showing off of her obvious flaw, of being unwilling to take the blame for her own mistakes. Regardless of what things she could point to-- and the unprecedented hit from the FBI's Comey, was the most legitimately egregious deviation from accepted norms (though, at the time I'd had a much different opinion, because I did not realize that this was an FBI code of conduct, to not interfere in politics, in the 3 months prior to an election; nor did I realize that Comey was, simultaneously, withholding any word about there being an ongoing investigation over possible ties between Russia and members of the Trump campaign)-- the fault for her loss, ultimately, was Clinton's own overconfidence. She was out collecting contributions, speaking in front of bankers in California (a state in which she was well ahead), while ignoring fly over states, particularly in the Midwest, in which her lead was tenuous to shaky.

We all knew that getting the most votes does not win one the Presidency. Presumably, Clinton knows how to count to 270. The embarrassing things to admit, are that Trump had a better strategy than Clinton and, in an even greater dishonor to Hillary, Trump-- despite all his inconstancy-- had better executed on his plan, than did our former Secretary of State, on her own.

 

Hillary was right that Comey affected her outcome, but she knew she lost and conceded

Trump knew he lost and refused to concede

 

Entire thing is nonsense. Voter fraud is a felony, 5 years if convicted. No such thing as a voter id card. IF you meant to vote after you sign up, already proving your right and attesting to your RIGHT TO VOTE

The UCLA Voting Rights Project found that voter fraud in vote-by-mail ballots was virtually nonexistent, eliminating the concern as advocates push for universal vote by mail amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

https://latino.ucla.edu/research/uc...king-the-myth-of-voter-fraud-in-mail-ballots/



Research suggests intentional voter fraud, for example through false or duplicate registration, is very rare in the U.S. today.
https://scienceexchange.caltech.edu/topics/voting-elections/voter-fraud-registration-elections

Is voter fraud real, and why does the issue come up around election time every year, especially during presidential election years?

Fraud committed by voters is exceedingly rare. But allegations of voter fraud are ubiquitous. They are almost always leveled by opponents when reformers seek to make it easier to vote, not just at election time. The specter of voter fraud is used to scare people and justify rules that make it harder to vote for that segment of the population that already votes the least – the poor, new citizen voters, young people and, most importantly, racial minorities.
https://www.rutgers.edu/news/voter-fraud-danger-or-myth

 

I think you meant delay but does a confirmation hearing count?

Or how about barricading a federal courthouse with people inside and trying to set it on fire. Does that count?

 

Nope.
Nope.

 

Oh so they could have just gone to a liberal courthouse, barricaded them inside and set it on fire and that’s cool. Okay good to hear. Just want to make sure we know the rules of the game for when it’s our turn to bat

 

Okay, i'm going to dress down Hillary's little excuse. Everyone knew about email gate within election day okay? Everybody. That's a little swan song that she tells herself at night. Most people had it in their minds anyway that a HRC Presidency would probably end up like a Trump one(where they were wrong, was thinking that Trump was an alternative to that. More people voted 3rd party than ever now imagine if the 'mainstay' of the country had that courage. Now that'd be amazing AF and we'd be in a totally different conversation right now.)

But Comey announcing the restart and then the 'ghost's all clear' again within a 48 hour basis, that didn't change anything. By that point if you were pro-Hillary, you were pro-Hillary and if you were pro-Trump then you were pro-Trump. Could it have maybe swayed a fence sitter or two? Maybe, but I seriously doubt it.

What she should blame, if anything were her deplorable comments, her 'why aren't I 50 points ahead' comments and her lack of attention to both Ohio and Michigan, both of which she lost and she needed to win to maintain the blue belt. PA as a purple state, went to Trump and the Repubs for the first time since the Reagan Administration.

She lost because she's incompetent, not because James Comey reopened the investigation. Ah, it feels good to rehash why that queen loser lost. TLDR: Entitlement Syndrome 101.

 

people on the left were sick of hearing about her email, they did not think Trump could win, thus did not get out to vote

Trump only won by a few thousand votes in key States, Comey doing what he did, could have influenced the election

Republicans did not go after the Trump's or his admin for using personal email

 

So delaying it makes it all OK?

 

HRC previewing what the future Biden Administration would look like was more of a blow(she openly campaigned that the farming industry in the midwest would lose jobs as well as the coal industry. And back then, 2016 voters had some sense of preservation. 4 years later, the coronavirus and its handling led people to select the current President Tin Can.)

I don't know if the Democrats will primary President Tin Can or not, but the Repubs can bring back most of that 2016 field(which generated the most votes on their side for their primaries, ever.) and excite the younger Republican base. And speaking for myself as an independent, I'd love if the opponent were a 40-50-ish year old with some government experience and also cognizant and capable of leading us into tomorrow.

No more tin cans, whether it be Trump or Biden.

 

the left did not think the Right could vote for such a immoral person as Trump.... they were wrong.. they did not make that mistake in 2020

I agree, I would like younger choices too - and not far left or right

 

Well hell no charges came from locking police officers in a building and attempting to burn it down. None came after IED’s were used against officers and civilians and cement blocks were bounced off cops heads by the Libs.

why should delaying the certification be any different?

 

Food for thought.

All elections and voting are rigged!

Because if voting by the peons had actually mattered then those at the top of the elitist gangsters run government control pyramid would not let you do it.

Voting is just a feel good illusion for all the mindless sheep to chew on.

 

Why is it none of you Trump supporters can address 1/6 without bringing up BLM?

 

Really, no charges?

https://www.mailtribune.com/happeni...rotester-gets-15-months-for-courthouse-arson/

 

Because we aren’t going to allow you a double standard. You’re not going to treat your guys good and our guys bad and expect us to act any differently.

 

Schinzing was in a group of protesters that marched to the downtown Justice Center on May 29, 2020, the second day of protest in Portland after George Floyd, a 46-year-old Black man, was murdered by a Minneapolis police officer.

The group broke several windows at the Corrections Records Office of the building where three Multnomah County employees were working, according to court documents. Members of the group spray-painted the office, damaged computers and started fires.

weird how he was in a group but he was the only one charged and he got 15 months for attempted murder. You folks are giving years to people what essentially amounts to trespassing.

 

The only one charged????

From the article

Other protesters who have faced federal prosecution for arson include Cyan Bass, who was sentenced to four years in prison for setting fire to the Justice Center and throwing a Molotov cocktail at police officers in September 2020. Of the 99 federal protest-related prosecutions as of Aug. 19, 50 were dismissed.

But I guess you couldn’t be bothered to read to the 8th paragraph.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases

There is a LOT more here than just “trespassing”

 

Because it is VERY difficult for us to pretend that was the only violent protest in the past few years and BLM has like 50+ of them in that time and they were violent and FIERY. You guys want to talk about ONE riot 50x a day and you want us to talk about 50 riots ONCE (in our lives) and you really are asking WHY we bring that up?
are you serious right now man?

 

Actually your side is the living embodiment of double standard.

I have three words for you…

“Lock her up”

 

Correct. Why bring it up?
Does it have anything to do with 1/6? No.
Does it in any way excuse 1/6? No

 

Challenge! Make a thread to call out the violence of BLM riots and then see if NO lefties reply with anything about Jan 6th.
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GO !!!!!!

 

Please keep us informed as to when Trump acknowledges he lost the 2020 election as Jean-Pierre has acknowledged Trump won the 2016 election.

 

I did. The 99 prosecutions that article is referring to are the 99 FEDERAL prosecutions derived from an entire SUMMERS worth of rioting, vandalism, attacking of officers, public servants and civilians as well as the attempted murder of multiple people. Not the one incident from where they attempted to burn down the courthouse with people whom they barricaded inside.

Furthermore, it says there’s a grand total of 99 prosecutions and SO FAR 50 of them have walked free with charges dismissed. So tell me, how many charges of the Jan 6 protestors have been dismissed for FAR LESS egregious activity?

Don’t worry. I’ll wait.

 

So, 50 were acquitted. That means there was a trial and enough reasonable doubt not to convict or not enough evidence for the prosecutor to want to go to trial. That is how our justice system works, right? Or do you want the guilty until proven innocent routine for all those civil rights demonstrations?

Second, what about the various state/local arrests of said protesters? Some 18000 were either arrested, given summons or citations, etc.

Or are you trying to play a numbers game here. 50 were dismissed, and you want the same number for January 6th? Based on what? reciprocity?